Ron Bell’s Velvet Elvis is a postmodern social gospel

Bob DeWaay does a good job in this article explaining the teaching of Ron Bell in “Velvet Elvis” and debunking them.  All I will add is that the American Church is heading for big trouble if young “Christians” keep following these postmodern leaders that have no regard for sound biblical doctrine.

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For the past two years I have researched the theology of the Emergent Church in preparation for a book I am writing. During that time I ignored Rob Bell’s Velvet Elvis because I was concentrating on other works of postmodern theology. Then someone loaned me Bell’s video in which he uses subatomic physics to try to prove that, “everything is spiritual.”

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Rick Warren is an example we should follow?

I have not heard the clip the below statement links to since I do not have the bandwidth for videos. I have no doubt that what is said is true. Rick Warren has been consistent in not sharing the gospel to unbelievers and has indicated in many ways that he thinks God is pleased with everyone and all they need is to find their purpose.

Seems to me Rick Warren claims to have Orthodox Christian beliefs to Christians but talks a Universal social gospel to everyone else. By the way, this is not the first time that Warren has had insults for Conservative Christians.Icontinue reading

Jimmy Carter heads push for Baptist unity

Jimmy Carter the great compromiser now attempts to unite Baptist denominations over his own beliefs. He can achieve this if everyone just decides that biblical issues that divide us like abortion, homosexual rights and Israel are no longer important. Well thanks to people like Jimmy Carter the church in America is now just about dumbed down enough to unite on anything.

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so the issues are only women in ministry, marriage, legalized abortion,
gay rights and the separation of church and state. Nothing that can’t be
overcome with a smiling compromiser like Jimmy Carter around to help everyone
link hands.
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Rick Warren from Nation Cathedrel says that Evangelicals should unite with dead mainline churches

Rick Warren is the top guru in the most accepted movement in the evangelical churches – The purpose driven movement. Rick Warren never ceases to amaze me by what comes out of his mouth and where he will go to speak. In this case, Rick Warren speaks from a well known apostate Church but he does not give the gospel of Jesus Christ to them he tells these apostates that Evangelicals should unite with mainline churches without regard to their apostate doctrines.

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Pagan/Christian hybrid emerging Pentecostal churches

I have noticed in my own experience that Pentecostals too often cross the line. Here is a story of one Pentecostal pastor that crossed the line and took his whole church with him. Come to think if it, I also noticed that many Pentecostals worship their pastor and will follow him anywhere no matter how unbiblical he becomes. Thus, unless there is some way of weeding out these wolves in sheep’s clothing many sheeple will soon be drinking the kool-aid.

I am not picking on Pentecostals. There are just as many godly Pentecostals as their are godly non Pentecostal believers. However, the display of mystical gifts often attracts unstable people.… continue reading

The Truth War is published

Jan Markell in this article informs us of John MacArthur’s book, “The Truth War”. Truth is being sacrificed on the altar in many Christian churches today in order to be relevant and popular.

That reminds me of a passage in Timothy:

2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
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SPIRITUAL SUGAR DIABETES

Dave Daubenmire puts his finger on the problem in today’s Churches. They have Christian versions of Oprah and Dr. Phil preaching in the pulpit and filling bookstores with sugar coated books. They sell Christians junk food.  How else do you explain what we see them buying for their consumption? Now many Christians keep craving more sugar until it puts them into a diabetic coma.

I expect this type of “preaching” from Dr. Phil, or Oprah, or a myriad of “pychobabalists” who dot the world of plasma TV’s. But it is tragic that the best selling Christian books in America today happen to be of this ilk.

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Accommodation or Confrontation with the world system?

Dr Francis Schaeffer in 1984 said, “The grossest form of worldliness is conforming to the form of worldliness that exists in it’s own generation”. That is exactly what is happening today in much of Christianity.

Accommodation or Confrontation – CWN: ” recently watched a video presentation of Dr. Francis Schaeffer’s last public meeting before he died in 1984. I was stunned, again, by the precision of his insights into his era, and ours. Dr. Schaeffer’s last two books, The Great Evangelical Disaster and A Christian Manifesto, were nothing short of prophetic. As he approached his death, after fifty years of his ministry, he observed that evangelicalism over that time could be summarized primarily by one term: Accommodation.

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What is Post-Postmodernism?

Excellent article about the war going on in the end time churches.

What is Post-Postmodernism? – CWN: “Postmodernism is seen, in part, in the ordination of homosexuals in the liberal mainline churches, the embracing of higher criticism and skepticism of the Biblical texts, and the utilization of pop culture advertising techniques in reaching the masses. While the church is waging internal wars about power-point choruses versus hymnbooks, praise bands versus organs, formal attire versus casual, our Postmodern nation is on the verge of losing the ability to maintain its foundational institutions. Wimps can’t govern themselves. God told Jonah that Ninevah was on the verge of being destroyed.

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Needed: A BOLD ORTHODOXY

Great article Steve on the Emergent movement

Needed: A BOLD ORTHODOXY …the biblical answer to the “PC” State of EMERGENT evangelicalism – CWN: “What is needed in today’s religious climate and culture is a bold orthodoxy. The Emergent Church is proud of their ‘humble’ orthodoxy. Truth to them is liquid, fluid, changing, evolving, and must remain adaptable to the times. By comparison, they mock the Scriptures as being God’s infallible, inerrant Word; they wrest the gospel of its exclusiveness; they misrepresent the character of the One Triune God; they reduce the ministry of Jesus to Him being a social engineer or a compassionate advocate for the rights of the oppressed; they deny the existence of hell, penal substitutionary atonement, justification by faith alone, and that church shouldn’t primarily be about the glory of God, but about us.”

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Compromise isn’t just found in the Emergent Movement

Those with true Christian faith have a hard time compromising with the lies of liars and that speaks wonders for those who do.

Compromise isn’t just found in the Emergent Movement – CWN: “As W. Graham Scroggie said, “Light and darkness, right and wrong, good and evil, truth and error are incompatibles . . . when they compromise it is the light, the right, the good, and the truth that are damaged.”

The biggest danger to the evangelical Church is not false religion or atheism, but compromise; it has always been a tool of the enemy. When compromise occurs, we can have church growth but no depth; numbers, but no character; enormous buildings, but small hearts.

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Shaping the Global ‘Christian’ Youth

Like usual Berit Kjos gives too many good points in her well documented articles to do justification in a clip or two. I hope you will read the article. Berit has a very good handle on what is happening in the world and the church of today. It is not a pretty picture.

Berit Kjos — Shaping the Global ‘Christian’ Youth: “Like our secular guides, today’s postmodern, purpose-driven church guides keep sounding the call for continual change. And their restless audience — dulled by decades of ‘progressive education’ and corrupt entertainment — are fast falling in line behind the most popular pied pipers.

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What Happens When the Church Puts Primary Value on Attendance and Not on Discipleship and Doctrine

That is why I call the Emergent Church Rosemary’s baby of the seeker friendly movement. The leaders of the Emergent Church grew up in the seeker churches where Bible doctrine was downplayed.

The post-modern emergent movement along with Rome’s leadership fits to a tee the Harlot Woman who rides the Beast of Revelation. They most likely will be brought together in a war against Islam and it will hate fundamental religion of any kind and embrace all beliefs except those who claim to have absolute truth.

What Happens When the Church Puts Primary Value on Attendance and Not on Discipleship and Doctrine – CWN: “The Emerging Church Movement is about evangelizing the consumer.

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The Return of the Old Gods — A Challenge to Green Evangelicals

This is a great article. It gets into much deeper issues then just the Global warming controversy. I hope you will read it.

American Thinker: The Return of the Old Gods: A Challenge to Green Evangelicals

So what we have witnessed in the Global Warming debate is a perfect storm of anti-Christian philosophies parading as science. Materialists, Socialists, and Left-leaning types found common cause with neo-pagans and anti-Christian spirituality to advocate a New World Order dressed as a movement to save the planet. A friendly media has nurtured and supported it, and it has advanced through a string of sacraments; separating trash, installing low wattage light bulbs, driving hybrid vehicles, etc.

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Lutherans in the Twilight Zone

Nothing surprises me anymore as pseudo Christianity enters the Twilight Zone and mounts the Beast.

Lutherans in the Twilight Zone – CWN: “Sadly and unfortunately, the ELCA has taken a cowardly and unbiblical approach to this volatile issue. They, obviously, need to make up their minds as to whether they are going to obey God and His Word or plant their feet firmly in mid-air of post-modern rationalism. A wise man told me years ago that, “when you try to appease everyone you will please no one.”

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The doctrines of grace according to Brian McLaren

Brian Mclaren is reinventing Christianity but it is not the Christianity found in the Bible.

Reinventing Calvinism – A Generous Heresy …the doctrines of grace according to Brian McLarenCWN: “If Brian McLaren’s name is new to you, he is the latest guru of evangelicalism’s ‘search for significance movement’ which he and others have coined as “The Emergent Church.” This is the new ‘flavor of the month’ in Christian circles. He is featured currently in the cover article of CT (Christianity Today) on the theme of ‘The Emergent Mystique.’ More on “The Submerging Church” later (‘submerging’ – for what is emergent is not a biblical church at all, but more appropriately – a movement).”

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Erwin McManus’s False Teachings

This will get to the heart of the matter about the heresy within the emergent church movement. In a nut shell their goal is a Jesus religion that cares little about the Biblical Jesus or His words. They plan to reinvent Christianity so it will fit right in with the postmodern generation taught that there are no moral absolutes. This is why this movement will be identified with the harlot who rides the Beast in Revelation.

Erwin McManus’s False Teachings  “Erwin McManus has made it crystal clear that he hates Christianity. This is very well documented. He has said, “The greatest enemy of the movement of Jesus Christ is Christianity,” and “My goals is to destroy Christianity as a world religion and be a recatalyst for the movement of Jesus Christ.”[1]

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Erwin McManus’ Real Position on the Authority of Scripture

Just some documentation on the postmodern doublespeak of Emergent church leader Erwin McManus

Erwin McManus’ Real Position on the Authority of Scripture : “When challenged openly, Erwin is quick to defend himself by making “orthodox” statements like, “the Scriptures are God’s authoritative word to us.” But then he turns around and train his leaders to perpetuate the unregenerate mind of the culture in their own circles of church leadership, telling their followers that the Word of God is God’s word “to us” and for us, and is all about us; that it means, more or less, whatever you think it means.

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Purpose Driven support for Rosemarie’s baby

Ever wonder why Rick Warren gets all this news coverage? I guess it really helps to be a member of the CFR. I wonder how many of this globalist elite club he has reached for Christ? Paul Proctor, in this article hits the main points so I just want to add my belief that this movement is also the mother of Rosemarie’s baby (The emergent church movement). I explain that and talk about some of the issues that Paul Proctor brings up in my dominion theology article. It gets into Psychology, the Purpose Driven and the Emergent church movements and much more.continue reading

MacArthur emerges againt the emergent church

The emerging church will emerge into the world church that rides the Beast in Revelation. Hear what John MacArthur has to say about the emergent church movement.

Author and pastor sounds warning about ’emergent church’ (OneNewsNow.com): “In his book The Truth War; Fighting for Certainty in an Age of Deception, Dr. John MacArthur sounds a warning about the growing influence of the emerging church movement. The battle for truth, he says, is raging not only in society, but throughout the church.
‘I think the emergent church, at its foundation, is unwilling to acknowledge propositional truth,’ MacArthur says. ‘And their spin is that the Bible is not that clear.

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