I said last week that nothing would come of this resolution at the Southern Baptist Convention because we have girlie men in leadership. Many parents are out of touch with what is going on in our schools but nevertheless any Christian leader ought to know that the state is now indoctrinating and perverting children in public schools California and elsewhere. They just do not want to do what it takes to fix the problem.
The SBC has just given the government a blank slate for it to continue and then they wonder why they have lost most of their youth. The SBC excuse is that they need to focus on the same sex marriage issue. How will that stop the mandatory homosexual indoctrination of your Children this fall in California? If you do not attack the root of the tree it is going to grow and spread in every direction. You can cut off a branch here and there but that is not going to kill the tree.
“Christians” need to pull their kids out of public school or one has to wonder if they really hate their children? Those men that will not take care of their own family are worse than infidels.
Christians need to send a powerful message that the will of Christian people in California will be respected or the state will see dire consequences. Instead Christians show disunity and are marginalized by doing nothing.
In a post a couple of weeks ago I told Pentecostals to grow up and stop following con men that are making total fools of them. Now I am telling all Christians to get a grip before you lose your salt and light and become good for nothing but to be trampled down by the herd of pigs that are running roughshod through society.
Large and mid-sized Southern Baptists churches of any size ought to be building Christian schools instead of bigger barns and meeting places that are used once or twice a week. Small churches should be helping people to set up homeschooling. Instead most are still ho-humming the greatest crises to the youth of Christians in history.
Tell your representatives that went to the convention. Thanks for nothing! And then put your own pastor and your church board’s feet to the fire to come up with a plan for alternate Christian education of your children.
Southern Baptists continue to resist public school concerns (OneNewsNow.com)
Messengers at the annual meeting of the Southern Baptist Convention in Indianapolis approved a resolution supporting a ballot initiative in California that will define marriage as only between one man and one woman; however, an amendment that would have called on Christians in the state to remove their children from public schools was soundly defeated.
That amendment was worded virtually the same as a proposed resolution that was not reported out by the committee. Bruce Shortt is a messenger from Texas who has been leading the call of some Southern Baptists the past several years for a comprehensive “exit strategy” from the public school system. He was not surprised the proposed resolution never made it out of committee. However, he says an organized grassroots campaign, known as California Exodus, is gaining momentum.
Shortt says Southern Baptists in other states should not be complacent about the issue. “It may be happening in California today, but I can assure you, the very same special interests that pushed this thing through in California are looking at how they can do it in Massachusetts, Vermont, New York, Illinois, and in Minnesota, and Wisconsin, and probably in a few other states – Washington and Oregon. And it’s coming. The wolf will be at the door of a lot of states, and I think people will be very surprised,” Shortt contends.
The title of this article is disingenuous and not in the Christian way. The SBC has problems. This is absolutely an unfair and ridiculous statement. There is no one in the SBC that actually says what this title says. This is stooping very low in un-Christian commentary – especially from one that claims Christ’s name.
The resolution was brought up to the SBC to tell parents to take their kids out of public schools but they rejected it. The end results will be that their kids will continue to be indoctrinated by perverts and liars in public schools. I cannot think of a more important issue today. The Bible says bring up a child in the way he should go and when he is old he will not depart from it. These kids are being brought up by the state and taught lies and they are departing from Christianity as soon as they get off on their own.
The biggest protestant denomination in the country does not want to touch the issue of what is being taught in our public schools. When the overseers in the Church know that there is a problem and they do nothing they have become part of the problem. So in effect by not telling parents to take their children out of these schools they will be held accountable. Now if they had told parents to take them out and the parents did not, it would not be on their own heads.
Do you realize that if all Christian parents took their kids out of public schools that this indoctrination would stop. The schools would change in a heartbeat. So it is really just taking a stand on what is taught in public schools and saying loud and clear that we have had enough. But SBC says sorry…. we have more important issues like trying to put a band-aid on one of the symptoms of perversion in this country rather than treating the brainwashing disease that will doom a whole generation to hell!
It is time that Christians leaders started to lead!
I am having a really tough time finding a current discussion on the SBC website. Are you bringing up the 2004 Private Schooling Initiative? This is really old news!
It is not old news
This post of course is in regard to the quoted article (the link to the full article is on top of the quoted part).
It is the follow-up to what was brought to my attention and I commented on and quoted on this blog on June 7th. Please read my following post followed by the entire article that .I commented on.
https://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/the-fall-of-christianity-in-america.html
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=66430
This is not honest reporting. A secondary article, with no supporting information, is improper reporting. You did not respond properly. The actual information is from 2004. The fact that an obscure article mentions it four years later does not commend it. Accusing your brothers and sisters in Christ is not proper.
What do you mean no supporting information? You have a reading problem.
The article that address this issue is dated June 7th 2008 and is quoted on this same blog. The first line of this blog says that I talked about this issue LAST WEEK. So if you cannot look back to posts I made LAST WEEK don’t blame me.
This present post addresses that the resolution to the SBC convention that I spoke of on June 7th was rejected in committee when they met in JUNE 2008! They frankly said in the article I quoted that wanted to focus all their energy on the gay marriage agenda in California. So how in the world could this be an issue of 2004?
I cannot post the entire article on my blog that would be copyright infringement you have to read the whole article to get everything that is said. That is why there is a link to the full article at the top of what I quote.
I had said in my June 7th comment on this blog that I thought the SBC would probably do nothing on the school resolution and they proved me right. Thus, I wrote this follow-up article. I wrote it because Christians need to hold their representatives accountable since the SBC decided not be bothered with what I believe to be the most important U.S. Christian social issue of our time.
I suggest you read the articles that are being addressed before you respond.
My brothers and sisters at the SBC did nothing on this resolution and all Children will still be given thousands of hours of anti Christian indoctrinated in public schools and that sir is fact! If there is a more important issue that the SBC should be addressing I would like to hear it. Even if taking your kids out of public schools was addressed in 2004 by the SBC they obviously recommend nothing, as they did in 2008. It is a far more serious issue today.
Don,
I went to the source: the SBC website. I found nothing. Tell your readers how to find this information on the source site. I cannot find it! Perhaps you have honestly reported what others have reported. This is a Fox News article from 2004: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,122885,00.html.
Believe me, I am involved with a Southern Baptist Church, and I have more than one fault to discuss with my leaders. I want to know more. I have to have solid proof, not secondary interpretation. I will not falsely accuse my brothers and sisters of any denomination based upon secondary evidence.
This apparently is a resolution in just the local California convention. Parents of children that think that public schools teach evil should find an alternative. Many SBC folks in Virginia do just that. I do not think the convention, having no authority over any SBC fellowship, is the body which should make such resolutions.
To tell you the truth Joe you can do whatever you want but your beginning to be a pain. You have to read the articles that I give you!
Read this one
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=66430
This is what this was all about and if you look at the dates and the subjects in that article it is not talking about 2004, it is talking about 2008. The follow up article that is the issue of this post was what the national SBC convention did on that resolution this month.
I cannot help it that you cannot find the issue on the SBC website. They killed the resolution in committee so maybe they don’t care to inform anyone about issues they kill in committee.
It has nothing to do with a local California SBC convention.
The SBC takes positions on lessor national social issues and issues of the people who attend Southern Baptist Churches. It cannot tell any Church what to do but it exists for a reason and it can make recommendations as it will on the gay marriage agenda in California.
As the article linked to in this blog said, the reason they did not want to address the “taking your kids out of public school resolution” was because they said they wanted to focus on the California gay marriage agenda. If you need any more information on the resolution that Attorney Bruce Shortt brought up at the 2008 convention I suggest you try to contact Bruce Shortt
I read the 2004 article it is much the same, in 2004 the SBC more or less said they did not want to advise parents what to do on that resolution. It looks like Bruce Short Shortt also introduced the resolution in that year.
Much has changed in the schools for the worse since 2004 and if the Church is not going to address the youth disaster then why in the world are top Christian leaders now planning to have a convention at Thomas Roads Baptist in August to address why young people now have a eight times worse view of Evangelicals then they used too? The people holding the convention think it is because the church has not been humble enough but the real main reason we have lost a whole generation is because they are receiving thousands of hours of anti-Christian propaganda in public schools and in media. They also are been fed worldly amoral valves so what should we expect?.
Look, if the churches are not going to deal with the real issue with the youth they ought to quit the B.S. about reaching the youth because the Church is not going to reach these indoctrinated brainwashed kids especially when the gospel is hardly available to hear anywhere either..
Don,
Your “pain” threshold is very low. I do not mean to be a pain. Your last article was very helpful. Since the Annual Convention has just very recently past, the minutes are not available yet. I found the resolution by proper name to have been submitted by the conservatives of Tennessee. I will await the minutes of the meeting to make judgement..
Joe, if you will look a couple of comments previously you would see that I gave you that same link before.
I think the minutes will reflect what was said in the article that is attacked to this post about what they did with this resolution.
You know Joe, The SBC is entitled to make a decision not to deal with this resolution and to not make a recommendation that Baptist Christians should take their kids out of public schools but I also can express my opinion what I think that all means and what I think Baptists ought to do about it. That is what my comment was about.
I want large Baptist churches and large Christian churches in other denominations to start building Christian schools and I want rural ones to help enable parents to home school. Perhaps then the government will get the message and stop the anti Christian indoctrination. But they are not getting any message when Christians do nothing. The first step is to declare that what we find going on in public schools to be unexceptionable and let them know we are determined to do something about it. That is where leadership comes in. If we do not do that I can guarantee that under the next administration it will be the California agenda in every state of the Union.