I really love these people who tell me that they really believe the world is coming to an end in 2012, or they are certain that the Rapture has to happen within a year or two, or that they have the date of the second coming all figured out, or that Jesus has to come before 2019 because of their interpretation of the “Fig Tree Parable”, or based on some pagan prophecy, or the sayings of Jack Van Impe, etc., etc., but they continue to retain all their wealth like they are going to live here forever or take it with them.
If you really believe what you say you believe on the Internet and in your emails, what need will you have for all your money? Give it to someone who will use it for Christian ministry in the couple of years that you are certain that we only have left.
I certainly could use a million bucks to hire a staff and to set up a modern office and expand this ministry. I would use your money to help get the message out that Jesus is coming soon and warn Christians about all the latest heresies, and warn about the wolves in sheep’s clothing running around seeking wheat to sell baloney to, so the wolves can devour them (with mustard) before Jesus even gets here for supper.
Not to mention, that the average attender in most congregations today is brain dead when it comes to biblical knowledge and understanding, and they really need to read my shock courses on basic Christian doctrine so they don’t get Jesus mixed up with the Mahdi or some stain on a coffee table.
Others just need to hear what I want to ramble on about (like here) but I can’t be doing much rambling on if I am busy with other tasks that go along with keeping up a website and Blog and also keeping an abode in the deepest darkest jungles of the Ozark wilderness. (We still have to appease and fight off leprechauns and trolls here, not to mention, the government wilderness control freaks).
So if you are so certain that Jesus must return before 2012 or thereabouts just send me one of those spare millions that you know you won’t ever be needing and help expand this ministry. You will not get a tax deduction because I am not on the list of IRS approved charities and probably never will be with my constitution. But what do you need a tax deduction for anyway?
Don’t get me wrong, I am not asking for small donations from anyone reading this or from those who have any doubts about the Lord coming before 2019. I can’t expand a ministry on a thousand bucks here and there, and certainly can’t on your spare change. Send your seed faith change to the TV hucksters. I need really big bucks, like a million or so from the faithful that have no doubt in their mind that Jesus must return before 2019 and so are certain they will not ever need the million bucks. I give no refunds, if you change your mind or Jesus does not return before your date, you’re just out a million bucks and probably used it for a better cause than you would have. You probably would have just bought more gadgets like one that will allow you to text with your toes while driving (now don’t ask me where to buy it).
If you do not want to send the million to me then give it to the ministry of your choice or the poor. So, as the saying goes, put up or shut up!
People spouting this stuff about Jesus coming in 2012 etc., really need to put their money where there mouth is and not be hypocrites or else they should tone down their date speculations. That includes the authors that are banking money from selling 2012 new aged baloney.
Just email me and ask me for my mailing address if you have a million that you do not want to take with you.
😯 In return I will send you a semiannual picture of my well fed (thanks to you) four dogs and six cats. Sorry, they cannot write you letters. As a bonus you will receive a envelope of fairy dust from the local leprechauns. I think if you sprinkle the dirt… er…I mean dust.. on your upside down St Joseph statue your multi-million dollar mansion will be the first one to sell on your block (not valid in California, Nevada, Arizona, or Florida).
Don you hit the bottom line with the put your money where prophecy is challenge. The God inspired Old Testament prophets predicted the future knowing the fate of a false prophet was death. I wonder if these modern day prophets would be willing to die for their 2012 predictions?
Bill, I guarantee they will not even send me the cash, yet die for their speculations. I would not label them false prophets in the Old Testament sense however. Most do not claim to hear from God they are neo-Gnostics. They think they have new esoteric knowledge.
Don,
I certainly do see the connection between what inspired you to write this and the Israel Insider post-election November 2008 article on Obama, Bible codes and some obscure “501” Gematria. Truly, there are a whole bunch of folks, Gentile and Jew alike, Redeemed and future members of the 144,000, who currently are drinking water from a different well than the one from which springs both the discernment of the Holy Spirit and the water of eternal life. That’s the effect just the first paragraph had upon me.
However, by the time I got to the second paragraph a big grin appeared upon my face which only grew as I continued reading. I’ll even readily admit I loosed a few minor chuckles and one hearty LOL when I got to the part about IRS approved charities. Simply priceless! Maybe you can fix that minor problem by demonstrating to the IRS the many different ACORNs from the great variety of oak trees in your region? I have read how ACORNs around the country receive government stipends and dispensations totalling in the millions of dollars.
By the same token and getting back to the seriousness of the subject, specifically speaking of Matthew 24:32 (Parable of the Fig Tree)…
I have given this verse all due Berean study. In this study I paid very close attention to where Jesus says, “When its branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves,”
The original Greek is: “Hotan autos klados ginomai ede hapalos, kai ekphy? phyllon”
and literally means:
“As soon as a young tender shoot (meaning both the kind broken off for grafting per Romans 11 AND the current generation of true believing Jews) is (now, already) full of sap, and generates leaves”
“you know that summer is imminent.”
With repect in specificity to the literal translation of the Matthew 24:32 from the original Greek, please read two pages from the FocusonJerusalem.com website:
http://www.focusonjerusalem.com/israelandthefigtree.html
http://focusonjerusalem.com/israelandthefigtree2.html
Page 1 is requisite hermeneutical background, and Page 2 gets into the details regarding the Fig Tree, the grafted branch on the tree and the TWO harvests of ripe figs. And there’s a point within about a specific span of 19 years (originating wit hthe period between 606 and 587 BC).
Exactly 19 years also elapsed between the rebirth of Israel in May/June 1948 and and the taking of Jerusalem in June1967. Coincidence? I think not.
This is the year 2009. This is the generation of which Jesus spoke. This generation began in 1948. Psalm 90:10 tells us a generation is 70 years, or 80 years with strength.
Going with strength… 1948 + 80 = 2028.
2028 is exactly 19 years from now. The Harpazo is more imminent than it has ever been.
Sean
Sean, I see how you come up with your view and its possibly correct, but I do not put all my eggs in that fig basket anymore. I wrote an article on this specific topic so my arguments are presented there.
https://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/is-the-parable-of-the-fig-tree-about-the-generation-that-saw-the-rebirth-of-israel.html
I think the 2028 date is possible but not probable. I would put the second coming a few years later for other reasons. So if we both are still here in about ten years I will be expecting that big check from you since you will not be needing it in the 20’s. Better to send me Euro’s than dollars. By that time a million dollars will not even buy a ACORN. 🙁
Sean, I admire your effort to translate Matthew 24:32, but the lexicons in use today can be traced back to corrupted versions from the 1800’s. Even Strong’s has corrupted definitions. This obviously does not mean every word, but some. “Hazardous Materials” by Gail Riplinger is a great source of information on this subject.
CLASSIC ARTICLE, DON! SIMPLY CLASSIC!
Really enjoyed that one.
Don,
I do not belive the Bride of Christ will still be earth-bound residents by the time 2020 rolls around. I believe the Bride is taken in the Harpazo circa the time of the fulfillment of Ezekiel 38-39. Anything I have left behind of earthly value will go to the 144,000 and the Tribulation Saints.
Frank,
Thank you very much for the admiring comment regarding my exegesis. I probably should have made the point prior to posting the details of my comment that I do not rely entirely upon the various earthly translations of Scripture in my exegesis of prophetic Scripture. The Holy Spirit is always the primary and defining translator of the texts. Invariably I find that laying these translations before the Lord, praying for and being led by the Holy Spirit endows one with a much deeper and richer understanding of the text as it is the original source of the the text. I will reference the several human commentators from time to time but only when their work aligns with that which the Spirit convicts me of. Unfortunately, and to this date, nothing authored by the KJV Only Gail Riplinger meets this criteria.
Sean, I probably agree since I think the Rapture is likely to be more than seven years from the end. If we are still here in 2020 it is not likely that we will have the freedom to get the Christian message out on the Internet anyway.
But, I expect to receive the big bucks any day now from those telling me it will all happen within the 2012-2019 period.
Frank’s statements often remind me of the thinking of certain Deacons in small fundamentalist Baptist churches. I am sure Frank would agree.
I’ll take that as a compliment Don.
I was sure you would
I’m curious about your thoughts on Riplingers’ books Don, especially “New Age Bible Versions”
I am not familiar with Riplinger’s Books. I believe KJ only beliefs are loony and that New Age Bible versions generally do not exist unless clearly defined as such by the author. That does not mean that some English translations of the Bible are not much better translations than others.
There are some paraphrases of the Bible like “the Message” that seem to qualify as containing some new age thought, but they are not Bibles. When I hear people in bible studies quoting from “The Message” like it was the Bible I now either say something to the group or depart from them..
“Loony” ?! I would suggest reading some of her books before labeling her beliefs loony. I could understand if you said that a belief in evolution was loony.
For example, many modern versions of the Bible use the New Age term “divine nature” in place of “Godhead. (Such as Acts 17:29) Thus changing the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost (which is the Godhead) from what it should have been translated as. As I know you are aware, the Message is the worst of these modern versions. I could go on and on about the thousands of changes, even to John 3:16 by some of these versions.
To say that they “generally do not exist” is an assumption that I would hope you would look into. We can all continue to learn more.
Frank, I am familiar with the King James only claims. If I recall correctly in one article I read she lays out the differences between translations and assigns the few passages they she thinks qualifies as New Age concept in her mind, ignoring the 99.9 percent that does not. Why is a wooden fundamentalist like you that believes women should not be teaching men in the Church buying into her teaching anyway?
There is something called common English usage. Just because people in New Age put their own usage on common English does not make a Christian translation usage “New Age”. You could probably search through various translations of “War and Peace” and find what you think are “New Age” terms. Does that make War and Peace “New Age”?
There are some problems in the wording of some modern translations for sure, that does not make them “New Age” . There are errors in the KJ as well and in all translations. “The Message” is often given as an example by KJ only people as a prime example of a “New Age” Bible, but like I said, “The Message” is not a Bible at all. It is a bad paraphrase written by someone who does buy into certain New Age concepts..
Don,
Yes, there is every indication from Scripture that the Bride will be removed prior to Daniel’s 70th Week. There’s also every indication that Daniel’s 70th begins after the events described in Ezekiel 38/39. The best evidence for this is found in Ezekiel 39:25-29 where the abundant past-tense references abound and the focus from that point forward is once again on Israel and not the Bride(Church):
“Therefore thus says the Lord GOD: ‘Now I will bring back the captives of Jacob, and have mercy on the whole house of Israel; and I will be jealous for My holy name— after they have borne their shame, and all their unfaithfulness in which they were unfaithful to Me, when they dwelt safely in their own land and no one made them afraid. When I have brought them back from the peoples and gathered them out of their enemies’ lands, and I am hallowed in them in the sight of many nations, then they shall know that I am the LORD their God, who sent them into captivity among the nations, but also brought them back to their land, and left none of them captive any longer. And I will not hide My face from them anymore; for I shall have poured out My Spirit on the house of Israel,’ says the Lord GOD.”
Uh, Don, she’s not teaching men in church. She has every right according to the Scriptures to write books for reading. She has much more time (usually 8 hours per day) to study such things as Greek and Hebrew. She even taught Greek in the past.
There are many many more verses that I could show that use New Age terminology. She is not the only one writing about such. More off the top of my head is Gary Gilley and Ray Yungen, and Roger Oakland. Ray Yungen, in particular, only reads the KJV having been saved after coming out of the New Age Movement after his own comparisons of the modern versions.
Put your hatred aside and read “A Time of Departing” or “This Little Church Stayed Home.” One thing I have noticed is that when someone (anyone) offers you information that counters your personal beliefs on this blog, you resort to insults (wooden fundamentalist…).
Remember, there are unbelievers reading this blog also !
Frank, it is you that often attack people and offend people on this blog. For example what was that last statement to me “Put your hatred aside” What hatred is that Frank, that you know I have that I should put aside?
I often use sarcasm to try to make wooden headed people see the truth. I know you are only saying what you hear from others but what you say is often unbalanced because you apparently get most of your information by listening to those who are selling something and giving a very narrow one sided view. That is why in a court of law there is always a defense. There are always too sides to any controversy and you need to hear them both to find out the truth.
I am not even against woman teaching in church but we already know that you are, but since she is saying what you want to hear she she is okay because she is not teaching men in your church? It is like the woman at “Lifeway” teaching most of the Sunday school classes in Southern Baptist Churches but since they are doing it long distance everything is hunky dory with people that would never let a woman teach a class to men in their church?? If people want to take everything said in the New Testament in a literal wooden sense they at least need to be consistent about it.
By the way, I never even said the differences in meaning she mentioned are incorrect. All I really said is that she went through the translations selectively cherry picking passages that supports what she wants but does not address the problems with her downing all other translations and other manuscripts. All the experts on the panels that translated the passages are always wrong and she is always right? Who made her the top authority above all else on language translations? She supports King James as if this translation was handed down by Moses.
I will tell you flat out that the New King James is a better translation even if some think they see a new age symbol on its cover. So is the American standard if you want a more direct word for word translation. Here is a review of a book that refutes what Riplinger says. Perhaps you should obtain and read the book and get a view from someone that will rattle your King James only wooden cage.
http://www.svchapel.org/resources/book-reviews/2-bible-study/629-the-king-james-only-controversy-by-james-r-white
I know that some well known people are concerned about certain passages in certain modern versions but I think you are also putting works in their mouth. I serious doubt if Roger Oakland and Dr. Gary Gilley teach King James Only and if I am wrong about that document it..
So, Ray Yungen that came out of the New Age only reads the KJV. Good for him. It is a good translation. However, it is a huge leap reading into that, that other Bible versions are therefore, “New Age”.
The books you mentioned talk about many things that are really wrong in the churches and they might mention books like “The Message” and some modern versions but these books you mention are not promoting King James Only. You are pretty good at throwing titles and links around here, but do you even read them yourself? Give some quotes that say they believe in King James only.
I know unbelievers read this blog but believers like you that are misleading them are my main concern. They need to understand salvation by grace through faith and not get burdened by those promoting wooden legalism. You want people who are not even in Christ yet to read a Old English version that they will hardly comprehend? Why do you think newer versions were written? It was not some satanic conspiracy as some claim. It was to make the written word understandable to a modern generation that no longer speaks in King James English. Why not take your wooden thinking to the full extreme and tell unbelievers they need to learn the Bible in Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic from the dead sea scrolls?
I’m glad that you posted something from James White. I sent him an email about 2 months asking why he found it in his heart to attack Gail Riplinger about her being a woman and her 2 failed marriages (one ended up abusing her, another was an alcoholic) instead of sticking to doctrinal issues. He never replied. The devils’ oldest tactic is changing the subject .
The Bible explicitly states men are to be the head of the church, as the man is to be the head of the household, as Christ is the head of the body of Christ. There is Godly order in everything. That DOES NOT mean that women cannot instruct other women in a Bible study or Sunday school class, etc., etc.
Your long post is yet another example to you not being open-minded to other information. If you do more research, you will see that the NKJV is nowhere near as accurate as the KJV. As for not being able to comprehend the KJV, that arguement is really ridiculous. I easily understood it when I was saved at the age of 15. Are there some old-english words that take a little getting used to? Yes. But they are nothing that anyone that can read cannot understand, even for a child.
All I can tell you is that soul-winning modern-day Christians that are on fire for the Lord such as Dr. Gail Riplinger, Dr. William Grady, Ray Yungen, Roger Oakland, and many others read and quote only from the KJV.
The NKJV even corrupts this verse in the KJV: It changes “for the love of money is the root of all evil” to: “for the love of money is the source of all kinds of evil.” The meaning change is obvious. There are many more watered-down verses, but to save space I’ll leave it at that.
I imagine Jame White pointed out her two divorces because it takes a lack of discernment to keep picking types of men that abuse woman. So if there is a trend in her life and she wants to be taken as a woman of great discernment she should have to answer to the apparent lack of it in her personal life. All other public figures do, so why should she be exempt?.
Your dispute should be what James White said in his book about King James only. Why would you expect James White to reply to you anyway? People in the public debate arena just do not have time to respond to everyone that emails them. On second thought don’t dispute anything here your way off topic. Just send me my million.
I know what the Bible says about woman having a head over them we have been on this topic before, Frank. You say woman cannot teach men but it seems they can when it pleases you. There is not much difference between a Bible study in your church led by a woman and a Bible study on some forum led by a woman. Why are you listening too her if you think woman should not be teaching men? Never mind, don’t answer.
There are exceptions but woman just are not rational thinkers like men and they often get off track and into emotionalism. Now if there is a head to keep them on track they can be allowed to teach but who is the head of Riplinger when she is teaching her narrow minded view all over the radio?
Frank, when you were 15 people people were probably educated to read. You are well aware of the problems in the public school system of today but you conveniently ignore it when it suits you. The facts are that most kids in our public schools would have a hard time getting through any translation of the Bible at all, yet the King James. Some of the words in the King James have completely different meaning today. I have known Baby Christians with doctorates that have had a hard time with the King James.
Also for a man that says he understood the King James at 15 years old, many of your comments sure show lack of basic biblical understanding.
The New King James has information that was not available to those that translated the KJV. It also reads better and corrects most of the known errors in the King James Bible. By the way, what version of the King James are you even talking about?. There have been many revisions of the KJV because of known errors?
I often quote form the KJV as well. It is the most widely used version in English and it is very poetic. It is also free software. I see you also left a lot of soul winning names that you like to drop out of your list. Like John McAuthur what version of the Bible does he prefer to use? What version does Hal Lindsey like? I would think it would be the ASV. How in your mind did Gail Riplinger become a big soul winner? Do you really think arguing about translations is winning souls?
Because good people use the KJV does not mean that the other versions are corrupt and “New age”. Nobody is putting down the KJV it is a good translation. But no English translation of the Bible can be perfect.
You say the NKJV even corrupts the verse “for the love of money is the root of all evil” it does not corrupt it, it just contains a variation of the meaning. My KJV says “For the love of money is a root of all “kinds” of evil and the “kinds” is in italics meaning that the word is implied it is not in the Greek.
That verse is some powerful example of New Age corruption, Frank. What damning differences between the two version!!! One version says the love of money is the root of all evil and the other says the love of money is a root of evil. The point is best said in the ASV “For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil”: or how about Young’s Literal Translation “for a root of all the evils is the love of money”. I think a donkey would get the point.
Frankly Frank, I am tired of you getting on my threads and changing every topic to one of your latest brain farts. Start sticking to the post topics or take it elsewhere. Or else send me the million buck and I will even create your very own blog for you. I can’t make anyone read it though..
Nice article, made for a good laugh.
Frank, What you said was deleted because it added noting to the discussion. Also, nothing I said in my last comment has anything to do with my heart condition. If you cannot refrain from personal attacks, I assure you that you will be banned from any further commenting on any topic on my blog.
Nobody know the date unless is revealed to a person by the Holy Spirit.First of all I would like to thank Mr Don for his marvelous web and how much a person can be educated by these informations specially in prophecy.I am living in the middle east and millions of christians(Orthodox and catholic) all of them here are ignorant about that and I was the first of them.It is a disaster.I found that Mr Don is among few persons who said that Israel must repent and believe in the good news.This is true and a courage.What I would like to say that we are may living in the last decade.How I know? This is a long story even what I have I could not know until now the full meaning.Something is relating to the second coming of the Lord and a warning for the freemasonry.What is the connection of freemasonry and the second coming of the Lord really I do not know.What I know that there is something is going to happen.I am not a prevoyant repeat I am not.Definetly all persons who have relation with the Lord they keep some very personal secrets only Him knows.Therefore please focus on that secret organisation and NYC city.God bless you all.
I’ll just go with the presumption that Jesus will have his kingdom established by the year 2032,two thousand years from 32 A.D.This one seems to make sense,give or take a few years.