I admire his courage. I also hope his life insurance is paid up. I also wonder who will have the courage to run his film. I guess he will have to upload it to the Internet but I doubt if anyone will have the courage to allow it on their Internet site. I wonder if the dutch will confiscate the film anyway before it is even released. I hope he has some copies hid somewhere.
If it ever is shown I expect the reaction from the Islamofascists will be about what we would expect…burning, looting, riots, world demonstrations etc.
Dutch lawmaker planning film criticizing the Quran – International Herald Tribune: “THE HAGUE, Netherlands: A Dutch conservative lawmaker said Wednesday he is making a film to highlight what he describes as ‘fascist’ passages in the Quran, his latest high profile criticism of Islam. The interior and justice ministers said they were concerned, but believed they had no authority to prevent the lawmaker, Geert Wilders, from screening his film. Wilders plans to depict parts of the Quran he says are used as inspiration ‘by bad people to do bad things.’ Less than 10 minutes long, the film is expected to air in late January. It will show ‘the intolerant and fascist character of the Quran,’ said Wilders, whose anti-Islam campaign helped his Freedom Party win nine seats in parliament in last year’s election”
“Wilders said he is not afraid of reprisals if his film angers Muslims. “I have lived with 24-hour protection for three years,” he said.
“I will make the film and see what reaction it creates.”
Frankly speaking, I don’t have much admiration for any politician anymore these days. Wilders is not wrong in many of the things he says but the ‘conservative’ lawmaker is not a Christian. If he and much of his supporters had lived in ancient Israel under the Law, they’d now be making a film on ‘Torahfascism.’ Many of his supporters are simply antireligious and they will call a biblical Christian or an Orthodox Jew opposing, for instance, gay marriage, just as much a ‘Fascist’ or ‘religious extremist’ as they will call a Muslim. His party is ‘conservative’ fiscally but in personal matters, it’s pretty liberal. Euthanasia, abortion, homosexual rights,… Mr Wilders sees no problem with it. Christian mores? That’s also ‘Fascism’ according to the tolerant Dutch!
What I’m saying here is not that Wilders is entirely wrong but I don’t simply don’t side with him nor with his universalist opponants. For instance, he suggests prohibiting the sale of the Qur’an. Then what about the Sunnah and the Ahadith, eh? Come on. Several Muslim countries are doing just the same with the Bible. So are we now afraid of a religious book too?
I don’t consider each and every Muslim person (or with a Mulsim background) a ‘Islamofascist.’ I don’t even believe in such a thing as ‘Islamofascism.’ Islam simply is Islam. It has a lot of forms and the anti-Semitism it displays to various extents have nothing to do with Fascism.
Wilders is godless, whoever right in warning about certain aspects of Islam he may be, and so is the West. And for that reason I refuse to speak for him. My goal is not to attack Islam or the Muslims and to defend Western civilization but rather to reach out to the Muslims and tell them about the Lord and showing them how different He is from Muhammad. I’d rather show them the Jesus film than a movie attacking their religion. Whoever awful the things Muslims may do in the name of their religion, they are people like anyone else and worth hearing the Gospel.
‘however right he may be’ *
Sorry, bad bad grammar today.
I don’t know anything about Wilders but anyone who would dare to touch the holy grail of Islam has courage.
The reaction of Islam will be as I stated but if he were attacking Christianity all he would receive would be a rebuke by some Christian leaders. So we see the contrast of those who live by the flesh and those who live by the Spirit.
I said there would come a backlash against Islam from native Europeans before long. What you are now seeing is just the start of phase one. I also have no false illusion that the backlash in the end might not be just as ugly as what happened to the Jews a lifespan ago.
I understand that you consider Wilders courageous. And he certainly does understand how Jihadis think. He’s far from a stupid individual. But I don’t side with him because both the Muslims and much of the West (including Geert Wilders) live by the flesh. Neither Islam nor the West know the Father. Both belong to the world.
I have no problem with criticism of Islam but as Christians we musn’t focus too much on the false teachings of Islam. Rather, we should focus on Christ and spread the word about our Savior to the Muslims.
Yes, Islam is evil. Yes, Muslims do evil things. But haven’t we done so as well? We were once like them. I for one even seriously struggled with the idea of ’embracing Islam’ before I became a Christian. I even thought about becoming an imam! Muslims are people like anyone else. I’ve at times had feelings of hatred towards Muslims after I realized the evil behind Islam, but that was wrong. I just hope that because of films like these, other Christians won’t fall in the same trap.
Until those in Islam critically look at the Religion nothing will change. Part of the process of getting people out of a brainwashing cult is to force them to think for themselves.
It is hard to preach Christ to a people who are under total control of a satanic religion. They will not even allow it. That also goes for the secular humanism religion of the West.
The issue is not that we all do evil things. There is no doubt that we all do evil. The issue is the solution for man’s evil. Is the solution through submission to law like Islam, or is through human rationalizations like in the West, or is it through what Jesus Christ did for us?
If we do not even get the freedom to tell people the truth about the freedom in Christ they will remain in darkness. How the door will be opened to hear the gospel will be God’s doing in both the West and in Islam. It may take a world war.
My point is that pseudo Christians in the West WILL fall in the same trap by overeacting against Islam. They will confront evil with their own evil.
On the other hand, I do not think true Christians will resort to evil to combat evil.
To be frank, I think it seems harder to preach Christ than it really is. How should we preach Christ? Do we necessarily need to do so in some form of organization? Isn’t it first and foremost also an individual task we have as Christians? I’m often in touch with Muslim people and many of them are surprisingly open to discussing faith. There are enough Muslims out there who are not satisfied with Islam. Honestly, I find it easier to have a discussion about religion with Muslims than with those Western people who couldn’t care less about anything in relation to religion, unless when it comes to making fun out of it. Unlike secular people, many of them are familiar with Jesus (albeit not in His true nature), Moses and other old testament prophets and biblical stories. That is an enormous advantage.
Also, it’s not because most Muslim nations prohibit conversions that they don’t happen and that it’s not possible for us to reach out to Muslims. How come there’s an Open Doors persecution list published each year if there there were no Muslims accepting Christ in Muslim countries?
There are enough opportunities we have to testify of Christ but in my opinion we don’t see them because we’re too concerned about our lives and defending our civilization against ‘those evil Muslims.’ There are many people who talk about Muslims as if they knew everything about them but they have never met any personally. I repeat, they are people like you and I. They have their feelings, their interests, their doubts, their sins, their good and bad sides, their own personalities. They’re just as human as anyone else but the Satan is driving many of them to do insane things.
I have this feeling the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians is also one of the major reasons why so many evangelical Christians have this attitude towards Muslims. Which I understand since I’ve often been that way as well. Many people are so caught up in defending Israel that they go blind and don’t see that religious and secular Jews alike need Christ too or they will perish. We’re not doing Israel any good by just supporting them and remaining silent on why we respect Israel. Moreover, in their blind love of the state of Israel, some people seem to have no love for the Muslims anymore. ‘Love’ in the sense of wanting them to know the Truth.
I don’t care much about defending Western values anymore because what the West has become and also means to people like Wilders is unbiblical anyway. What I do care about is to lead others to Christ whatever their cultural background.
Sure we have to confront Muslims with the evils of Islam but how can we do that without any mention of the alternative, Jesus Christ? That’s exactly why I don’t like films like these because they’re made in a worldly spirit that will attack the Muslims but not lead them to repent and accept Christ. They will promote secular values instead that will just as much oppose godly biblical faith as it will oppose satanic Islam.