82 thoughts on “Christians of America accept demonic choice for President in 2012?”

1. “America claims to be over 80 percent Christians but yet most of them will accept…. Christian conservatives in America talk about electing a Christian conservative but then promote and vote for people under control of the Devil.” “Many Evangelical Christian leaders in America that are supporting these people do not have even enough Christian discernment to see evil when they are looking at it.”

   Exactly my points of a few months back when I applied this to finding a Church home that adhered to scripture and did not compromise the word of God… in word or action. BTW: I did what you suggested Don and went to look for a church. Some churches I went to in person (sat down with the pastors) others I emailed and put forth my beliefs and offered to meet with the Pastor. I am still without a Church. For the reasons you point out yourself in regards to so called Christian voters. Many in the pews have become insincere, unashamed-hypocrites, compromisers. Well I should let scripture paint the exact picture… “People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God—having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with them” …I will keep looking; but I have little hope in finding a church home.

   Here is just one reply from a so-called Pastor of the flock.
   ——
   “Hi Al, I’m glad to hear that you and your family are looking for a church home. As it seems there are a FEW points that we wouldn’t line up with your beliefs, I will pass, on following up any further with you and pray that God will give you some clear direction and guidance in the next steps you need to take. May God Bless you with Him great mercy”
   ——
   Only a FEW points Don. He PASSED on me over a FEW points. Talk about NOT going after the one lost sheep. If that’s what he thought of me. This is just one example.

   I agree with you about Rick Santorum; as you know he’s been my choice from early on. But your right, he has but a few weeks left in this race. It will take absolute providence to see Rick continue on and win.

   It is amazing (the delusion over many folks) that even when most of the damming information on Newt & Mitt is public knowledge, and easily verifiable – some of the evidence is as plain as the nose on a face… from their own mouths, and recorded on video . Yet Mitt and Newt’s pole numbers keep surging. Unbelievable!

   Folks don’t want God 100% they just want to pretend they do. …” having a form of godliness”
   Before I was saved I always wondered why God had not yet come to abide in me. I mean… I believed, I repented and cried and asked and asked. But nothing changed.
   Now that I AM saved I know why that happened. Because I wanted to keep just a little tiny bit of the world with me. I wanted to be saved 99.9%. WELL God don’t heal or save 99.9% Its 100% or NOTHING at all. And many folks cannot accept that.

   It reminds me of a G.K Chesterton quote. “The Christian faith has not been tried and found wanting. It has been found difficult and left untried” This is so true for SO MANY.

   Don, I agree with all that you wrote on; about Ron Paul …And on NOT voting, if there is no choice for a Christian Conservative voter to pick from.

   I believe that for a long while there has been a secret agenda between the party leaders – funders. Possibly they really are one in the same – both under control of the puppet masters who run the world economies. For many decades now we keep moving right along, through a continual and ever morphing societal and governmental paradigm, that through the cyclic Synthesis of Thesis versus Antithesis… brings us ever closer to their END GOAL.

2. Al,

   America is just full of pastor centered churches that have leaders that love their clergy titles.
   Many pastors really don’t want people like you that will come in and perhaps rock their self propelled boat. They think the local church revolves around their own infallibility. The churches have created 100,000 local Popedumbs by creating a clergy.

   There are exceptions but you better stick to smaller fellowships or else ignore formal affiliations with some church you attend and just take part in selected events in one or more of them. Finding a small group of Christians with strong scriptural foundation within or without a local church is what you need.

3. Every U.S. citizen, especially America’s Christians, should support Congressman Ron Paul in his defense of the U.S. Constitution and freedom. Dr. Ron Paul is the man of the hour, whether he be in The White House or not, having shown unwavering patriotism and loyalty to the American people. The wicked mainstream newsmedia is maliciously attacking Dr. Paul, trying to discredit him.And I agree our nation doesn’t deserve a great President. Ron Paul has been a vigilant defender of our American freedoms. He’s certainly right on critical issues, honest, and he’s by far light-years ahead of any other candidates and he is the only canadate who put the name of Jesus in his statement of faith. http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/statement-of-faith/ I agree about Newt and Mitt but Santorum is a Catholic too.I feel Don, that Ron is the way to go as a Christian. Most Americans today, believers included, have their heads buried in the sand. It’s time to awake to righteousness, and obey the words of Ephesians 5:11… “And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.” The Bible does NOT teach blind allegiance to men, i.e., man’s government. What we need to do as Christians today, is to cry aloud against the crimes being committed by our top leaders, and call for justice! Many Christians consider this a form of anarchy, or being inappropriate—nothing could be further from the truth! Don’t fall for the Satanic lie that God wants us to offer our unquestioning support and admiration for criminals. Psalm 94:16 commands us to rise up against the evildoers.

4. Thanks Don.

   Yes…we have come to very same conclusion that you point out in the latter stages of the second paragraph of your reply. I will of course leave the door open – a faint hope of sorts. For us, Myself & my Wife, it is not vital ; we are older (almost our 50’s dare I say it 🙂 ) and Thanks be to God we are strong in our Faith. We have some friends and some family that we fellowship with and share that faith with – in a variety of ways. Our desire was more out of concern for our youngest daughter of 13. It’s so hard for her to find friends in school who unashamedly share the same beliefs as her. We can’t afford private Christian school and catholic schools are just as bad as the public one she attends now – maybe worse. We’ll keep praying and moving along as the Lord guides us.

5. If Paul had a reasonable 21st century foreign policy that was also unwavering in defence of Israel’ right to exist (and swinging around the stick of determent as opposed to a carrot or a cupcake)… along with not opening another “Big brother approved” front, or slide, on the slope of immorality in America through the legalization of marijuana… (And please don’t tell us that marijuana is as natural as rosemary and in no way leads to harder drugs. It IS a gateway drug to MANY things) …maybe then I would have reason to possibly support him. I can hear the youth now… “it’s Legal mom” “Can I have a bag of weed this Christmas – actually just fill my stocking with weed”

   Paul’s platform is filled with policies that to ME are clearly anti-Christian. On the abortion front – he merely wants to pass off the issue to the individual states. Same with Gay marriage. So while He PERSONALLY says that he stands opposed to these things. He takes no initiative to tackle them head on – He veils himself behind the constitution and the individual freedoms and rights that it proclaims and affords. Forgetting what Adams said. “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”
   I think we can all agree that we are even past the point of “any other”

   On Paul mentioning Jesus… maybe he gives an appearance of godliness but denying the power there of. I can declare Jesus all I want… but if I don’t obey him and DO HIS WILL in my life…. So what?

6. Jeff,

   Paul will not be elected in America because he is so out of touch with Americans. You might think that it is your Christian duty to vote for a Protestant Christian but America obviously is not just a Protestant Christian country. We do not live in theocracy.

   Paul is right about many of our problems but he has no realistic solutions to any of them.

   His solution for just about every domestic issues is to let the states decide or do it. Many of the state governments are just as wrong as the Federal government on the issues or worse. That is not going to solve our national problems and the size of state governments will just increase dramatically. Paul’s claim of cutting the size of government will be just a pipe dream. Paul’s solution for everything is not going to solve our overspending problem our debt problem or our national security problem.

   If Christians are just going to vote on who they think best qualifies as a Christian they will never get a reasonable President. Carter, Clinton, Bush and Obama all claim to be devout protestant Christians and you see where electing these Christians have got us.

   Show me the biblical moral difference between Rick Santorum’s views and Ron Paul’s views?

   Santorum believes that abortion is murder and should be outlawed but Paul thinks people should be free to do what they want.
   Santorum believes that marriage is between a man and a woman. Paul thinks it is state issue.
   Santorum believes in smaller federal government and state rights and so does Paul
   Santorum believes in following the U.S. constitution and so does Ron Paul.
   Santorum believes we need to stop Iran from getting nukes and Ron Paul says let them do what they want.
   Santorum believes that Islam is a evil threat to our national security but Ron Paul sees no evil unless it is us.
   Santorum supports Israel and Ron Paul does not.
   Santorum was advancing the tea party conservative movement that pretty much stopped Obama’s agenda for the last year while Ron Paul was pushing libertarianism.
   Santorum is a true conservative and Ron Paul is a libertarian. People need to learn the difference.

7. Al,

   You beat me by three minutes 🙁

8. I added this to the post.

   “Okay for you Ron Paul supporters I will give a good partial opposing view by Chuck Baldwin in his article http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin685.htm

9. 🙂 Great minds think alike 😀

   BTW: I tried the “Newt Gingrich Raally” Link and i get a 404 error.

10. Would it be incorrect to say ‘the media’ and those who run the media (the elites) have a good say over who shall run for President and who shall not? How else would Obama / Soetoro even have a chance after just 100 days as a junior senator? I hate the whole idea of conspiracies, but at what point are things just too obvious? How else would someone with ‘no past’ and no real experience get to where he is?

    It is a long jump to give up and realize that the person who is the figurehead of the US has already been determined months or even years before the election. We’re taught since birth to have a childlike reverence for the President. And to believe everything the Government tells us.

    Back to the point, I believe at the end of the day it is God Almighty who picks the President. To say we have any real power is silly. The Lord directs a man’s steps; how then can anyone know his own way?

    Thank you, Don, for having the courage to speak the truth.

11. Don,
    i was hoping you would post a blog about these election issues. I pretty much agree with everything you stated. As for not voting for anyone but Santorum, i cant blame you and i might do the same. I place the blame entirely on the republicans for the election of Obama and all the policies he has enacted thus far. I even have more respect for the democrat liberals than i do these Republican shills. I hear hardly a peep from them while he is dismantling our country. Why are they not hammering away at his failed polices, his radical associations, his dismantling of the military, his disrespect to our allies, etc?! We know the far leftists we have hate america and want to bring us down but the silence from the republicans tells me that they must agree with what he is doing. All they ever talk about is the debt and obamacare which are serious issues but there are dozens more critical issues that they never ever mention. They should go on national TV and openly call him a traitor working to destroy us and show america all his actions that support this. it gets me so angry but all i can do is pray and stock up on supplies and weapons.

12. David Henley,

    I think Obama was a well planned plant of the socialist elite. I am not saying they were all in on it, but when he appeared they certainly supported him and still do.

    By the way the 404 error on the comment section should now be fixed.

13. Jim,

    I think they are afraid of a constitutional crises with riots. They actually think they can beat him in the elections without exposing him for what he is. They are not called the stupid party for nothing.

14. OKAY…The link in the post is fine… was just the link above in your reply that was off.
    I read the article…its Pro Ron Paul.

    Here is an excerpt.

    ——
    “Ron Paul is not pro-life,” many Christians purport.
    Of course, this statement is laughable. As a long-term US House member from Texas, Ron Paul has repeatedly introduced the Sanctity of Life Act. The so-called pro-life GOP in Washington, D.C., had several opportunities to pass this Act when it held power in both houses of Congress and the White House from 2000-2006. Had it passed, Paul’s Sanctity of Life Act would have done two things: 1) it would have declared unborn babies to be human beings under the law, 2) it would have removed abortion from the jurisdiction of the Court under Article. 3. Section. 2. of the US Constitution. This would have effectively overturned the infamous Roe. v. Wade Supreme Court decision.”
    ———
    My question is why does Baldwin point out a Federal Bill of Paul’s from 2000 or earlier, yet doesn’t address Paul’s current policy platform to transfer the abortion issue down to the State level. Is there not a contradiction there? So as a House member Paul put forth a Federal bill on this, but when campaigning for President, he’ll defer the issue to the State.

    BTW: had this bill passed – how would the State then decide on abortion for itself? As Paul now suggest it should. Would it just have been a toothless Federal law that really held no power in the real and grand scheme of things. If not then there is contradiction in this as well. I’m befuddled by this article.

15. I realize it was an “act” not a bill. A bill is “proposed” legislation – a draft.
    An act is “adopted and effective” legislation.

    Baldwin also said this in the article …. “This would have effectively overturned the infamous Roe. v. Wade Supreme Court decision.” That would have been GREAT!
    So what’s changed now? Why put this on the table from the Federal Level in 2000… but now take the “let the individual States decide” position.

16. Al,

    I think Paulites are just true believers in their anti government Messiah so they search his whole book of life and make it say whatever they want to believe 😉

17. Hey, at least Obama is consistent !

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/01/26/senate-vote-gives-obama-option-to-raise-debt-ceiling-another-12-trillion/?test=latestnews

18. Don, We obviously disagree about Ron. But thanks for all you do on this site it is always a highlite to my week to read your current blog.God can heal America. America’s Christians are asleep concerning righteousness. They pray, go to church, try to live above reproach, and play the religious game. Unfortunately, they don’t get too upset over sin. Homosexuality doesn’t make them mad enough to speak out against it. Softporn on the store’s magazine display doesn’t offend them enough to complain to management. Abortion doesn’t offend them enough to try to deter unwary mothers from going into an abortion clinic to murder their child. Nope, the church just continues to sit on their blessed assurance, scratching each other’s backs, playing the game, and keeping someone employed who probably isn’t worth the money. Do you really think God enjoys hearing us praise His name while we sit idle as the wicked parade their wickedness? Psalm 94:16 doesn’t apply solely to Israel. God wants all of us to stand up against evil. Psalm 97:10 commands everyone who loves the Lord to “HATE EVIL.” Instead of standing on the promises, most church members are sitting on the premises. We need to get MAD (as in MAKE A DIFFERENCE). I’m not condoning violence or anything illegal. I’m simply saying that if we don’t exercise our God-given right to free speech, we WILL eventually lose it and our freedoms which are inseparably linked to free speech.Keep up the good work Don and God Bless all you do.

19. Thanks Jeff, I agree with your last comment. I also added equal time for Ron Paul supporters with the link I added in the post to the Chuck Baldwin’s article.

20. jeff,

    i agree with nonviolence but i think ultimately thats exactly what it will come down to. If nonviolent means fail which they probably will then you only have two options, leave or fight. its like playing a game where your opponent is cheating. obviously he will win cause he doesnt follow the rules just like our current administration and others in both parties. i just dont agree with most christians that peaceful means will prevail.

21. Hello Don, and others..

    So far, from my perspective, it appears that the republican leadership has somehow come to the conclusion that Romney is “the guy who can beat Obama”. It appears that they are so focused on winning the election that they are going for someone who stands close to the middle, in hopes of getting the independents, and some more moderate democrats. This if course is a fools errand. I do not see how Romney could possibly beat Obama as they are really not so very different.

    I agree that Santorum is really the only candidate with consistent Christian values. He has a viable plan for both domestic and foreign policy. The other candidates are just making promises that they think will get them elected that are not possible to enact.

    The voters out there have clearly given up seeking leaders with any real Godly character. I too am disgusted with the choices… We have a “wanna-be god” who wears magic underwear and believes Jesus is the half brother of satan; An egomaniac; and a guy who believes libertarian who believes that if we just hide from the rest of the world, the bad guys will go away.

    A very dissapointing state of affairs.

    I do have a question though… What if the options are Romney or Obama? What is a Christian to do? I cannot vote for either of them…. “Write in Santorum”???

22. Hi Rod,

    If we only have a choice between Obama and Romney. Obama is going to win so prepare to live in the United Nations against God.

23. Maybe if we can all get our eyes and minds off of potential Presidents of the USA and our eyes and minds on Jesus Christ then our last days will be filled with joy rather than worry and disgust? I believe our only real hope is with Jesus Christ, not with Elite Globalists who believe humans are in charge of the planet and the only way to save our human race is to kill off most of the population.

24. Amen David Henley.

    Don, Would that make the U.S.A. the United Socialists of Apostates ?

25. Certainly, John McCain was a “wimp,” and the Republican Party knew it. Now they are determined to put forth another “wimp,” (Romney) to be sure BHO remains in power to destroy America as we know it. If you read the article below (it is lengthy), it seems only the State of Georgia has the backbone to stand up to Obama, the faker–but no way to tell where this will go (don’t expect to read or hear anything about it in the mainstream media). Santorum was indeed our only choice, but almost all the Christian evangelicals I know have their heads in the sand or are so brain-dead from listening to “Christian rock” in their church services. But, I think God can STILL work miracles.

    OBAMA ELIGIBILITY COURT CASE…BLOW BY BLOW
    By Craig Andresen on January 26, 2012 at 9:25 am

    Given the testimony from today’s court case in Georgia, Obama has a lot of explaining to do. His attorney, Jablonski, was a NO SHOW as of course, was Obama.

    The following is a nutshell account of the proceedings.

    Promptly at 9am EST, all attorneys involved in the Obama Georgia eligibility case were called to the Judge’s chambers. This was indeed a very interesting beginning to this long awaited and important case.

    The case revolved around the Natural Born clause of the Constitution and whether or not Obama qualifies under it to serve. More to the point, if found ineligible, Obama’s name would not appear on the 2012 ballot in Georgia.

    With the small courtroom crowded, several in attendance could be seen fanning themselves with pamphlets as they waited for the return of the attorneys and the appearance of the judge.

    Obama himself, who had been subpoenaed to appear, of course was nowhere near Georgia. Instead, Obama was on a campaign swing appearing in Las Vegas and in Colorado ignoring the court in Georgia.

    Over the last several weeks, Obama’s attorney, Michael Jablonski, had attempted several tactics to keep this case from moving forward. He first tried to have it dismissed, then argued that it was irrelevant to Obama. After that, Jablonski argued that a state could not, under the law, determine who would or would not be on a ballot and later, that Obama was simply too busy with the duties of office to appear.

    After all these arguments were dispatched by the Georgia Court, Jablonski, in desperation, wrote to the Georgia Secretary of State attempting to place Obama above the law and declared that the case was not to he heard and neither he nor his client would participate.

    Secretary of State, Brian Kemp, fired back a letter hours later telling Jablonski he was free to abandon the case and not participate but that he would do so at his and his clients peril.

    Game on.

    5 minutes.

    10 minutes.

    15 minutes with the attorneys in the judge’s chambers.

    20 minutes.

    It appears Jablonski is not in attendance as the attorneys return, all go to the plaintiff table 24 minutes after meeting in the judge’s chambers.

    Has Obama’s attorney made good on his stated threat not to participate? Is he directly ignoring the court’s subpoena? Is he placing Obama above the law? It seems so. Were you or I subpoenaed to appear in court, would we or our attorney be allowed such action or, non action?

    Certainly not.

    Court is called to order.

    Obama’s birth certificate is entered into evidence.

    Obama’s father’s place of birth, Kenya East Africa is entered into evidence.

    Pages 214 and 215 from Obama’s book, “Dreams from My Father” entered into evidence. Highlighted. This is where Obama indicates that, in 1966 or 1967 that his father’s history is mentioned. It states that his father’s passport had been revoked and he was unable to leave Kenya.

    Immigration Services documents entered into evidence regarding Obama Sr.

    June 27th, 1962, is the date on those documents. Obama’s father’s status shown as a non citizen of the United States. Documents were gotten through the Freedom of Information Act.

    Testimony regarding the definition of Natural Born Citizen is given citing Minor vs Happersett opinion from a Supreme Court written opinion from 1875. The attorney points out the difference between “citizen” and “Natural Born Citizen” using charts and copies of the Minor vs Happersett opinion.

    It is also pointed out that the 14th Amendment does not alter the definition or supersede the meaning of Natural Born. It is pointed out that lower court rulings do not conflict with the Supreme Court opinion nor do they over rule the Supreme Court Minor vs Happersett opinion.

    The point is, to be a natural born citizen, one must have 2 parents who, at the time of the birth in question, be citizens of the United States. As Obama’s father was not a citizen, the argument is that Obama, constitutionally, is ineligible to serve as President.

    Judge notes that as Obama nor his attorney is present, action will be taken accordingly.

    Carl Swinson takes the stand.

    Testimony is presented that the SOS has agreed to hear this case, laws applicable, and that the DNC of Georgia will be on the ballot and the challenge to it by Swinson.

    2nd witness, a Mr. Powell, takes the stand and presents testimony regarding documents of challenge to Obama’s appearance on the Georgia ballot and his candidacy.

    Court records of Obama’s mother and father entered into evidence.

    Official certificate of nomination of Obama entered into evidence.

    RNC certificate of nomination entered into evidence.

    DNC language does NOT include language stating Obama is Qualified while the RNC document DOES. This shows a direct difference trying to establish that the DNC MAY possibly have known that Obama was not qualified.

    Jablonski letter to Kemp yesterday entered into evidence showing their desire that these proceedings not take place and that they would not participate.

    Dreams From My Father entered.

    Mr. Allen from Tuscon AZ sworn in.

    Disc received from Immigration and Naturalization Service entered into evidence. This disc contains information regarding the status of Obama’s father received through the Freedom of Information Act.

    This information states clearly that Obama’s father was NEVER a U.S. Citizen.

    At this point, the judge takes a recess.

    The judge returns.

    David Farrar takes the stand.

    Evidence showing Obama’s book of records listing his nationality as Indoneasan. Deemed not relevant by the judge.

    Orly Taitz calls 2nd witness. Mr. Strump.

    Enters into evidence a portion of letter received from attorney showing a renewal form from Obama’s mother for her passport listing Obama’s last name something other than Obama.

    State Licensed PI takes the stand.

    She was hired to look into Obama’s background and found a Social Security number for him from 1977. Professional opinion given that this number was fraudulent. The number used or attached to Obama in 1977, shows that Obama was born in the 1890. This shows that the number was originally assigned to someone else who was indeed born in 1890 and should never have been used by Obama.

    Same SS number came up with addresses in IL, D.C. and MA.

    Next witness takes the stand.

    This witness is an expert in information technology and photo shop. He testifies that the birth certificate Obama provided to the public is layered, multiple layered. This, he testifies, indicates that different parts of the certificate have been lifted from more than one original document.

    Linda Jordan takes the stand.

    Document entered regarding SS number assigned to Obama. SS number is not verified under E Verify. It comes back as suspected fraudulent. This is the system by which the Government verifies ones citizenship.

    Next witness.

    Mr. Gogt.

    Expert in document imaging and scanners for 18 years.

    Mr. Gogt testifies that the birth certificate, posted online by Obama, is suspicious. States white lines around all the type face is caused by “unsharp mask” in Photoshop. Testifies that any document showing this, is considered to be a fraud.

    States this is a product of layering.

    Mr. Gogt testifies that a straight scan of an original document would not show such layering.

    Also testifies that the date stamps shown on Obama documents should not be in exact same place on various documents as they are hand stamped. Obama’s documents are all even, straight and exactly the same indicating they were NOT hand stamped by layered into the document by computer.

    Next witness, Mr. Sampson a former police officer and former immigration officer specializing in immigration fraud.

    Ran Obama’s SS number through database and found that the number was issued to Obama in 1977 in the state of Connecticut . Obama never resided in that state. At the time of issue, Obama was living in Hawaii.

    Serial number on birth certificate is out of sequence with others issued at that hospital. Also certification is different than others and different than twins born 24 hours ahead of Obama.

    Mr. Sampson also states that portion of documents regarding Mr. Sotoroe, who adopted Obama have been redacted which is highly unusual with regards to immigration records.

    Suggests all records from Social Security, Immigration, Hawaii birth records be made available to see if there are criminal charges to be filed or not. Without them, nothing can be ruled out.

    Mr. Sampson indicates if Obama is shown not to be a citizen, he should be arrested and deported and until all records are released nobody can know for sure if he is or is not a U.S. Citizen.

    Taitz shows records for Barry Sotoro aka Barack Obama, showing he resides in Hawaii and in Indonesia at the same time.

    Taitz takes the stand herself.

    Testifies that records indicate Obama records have been altered and he is hiding his identity and citizenship.

    Taitz leave the stand to make her closing arguments.

    Taitz states that Obama should be found, because of the evidence presented, ineligible to serve as President.

    And with that, the judge closes the hearing.

    What can we take away from this?

    It’s interesting.

    Now, all of this has finally been entered OFFICIALLY into court records.

    One huge question is now more than ever before, unanswered.

    WHO THE HECK IS THIS GUY?

    Without his attorney present, Obama’s identity, his Social Security number, his citizenship status, and his past are all OFFICIALLY in question.

    One thing to which there seems no doubt. He does NOT qualify, under the definition of Natural Born Citizen” provided by SCOTUS opinions, to be eligible to serve as President.

    What will the judge decide? That is yet to be known, but it seems nearly impossible to believe, without counter testimony or evidence, because Obama and his attorney chose not to participate, that Obama will be allowed on the Georgia ballot.

    It also opens the door for such cases pending or to be brought in other states as well.

    Obama is in it deep and the DNC has some…a LOT…of explaining to do unless they start looking for a new candidate for 2012.

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26. Jerry B,

    Great update, Thanks

27. Don,

    In regard to what Mr JerryB just said, I think your April (2011) post quite possibly had more substance than just joking fodder.

    Looking at the future, we could possibly hear…

    “Former disgraced U.S President Barack Obama and President of Kenya said, “April fool America”. I was really born right here, ha ha.”

28. Hi JerryB & Others.

    Here is a Link to the video of the OBAMA ELIGIBILITY COURT CASE.

    Audio is not great… but not too bad.

    http://www.westernjournalism.com/exclusive-video-of-georgia-obama-eligibility-hearing/

29. Hi Don,

    Yeah.. It’s going to be a wild ride. If Obama does get another term… Second term Presidents have nothing to lose. So it’s going to get messy…

    Rod in Oregon

30. Rod.

    Especially if they want to become permanent dictator or more likely UN Secretary General.

31. Well, if he can’t be Prez… Whats left? I guess UN Secretary Gen is all thats left. Thats a rather creepy thought. Im still holding out for a Santorum rally.

    🙂

32. I wish that I could disagree with your analysis. I can’t. I had already decided to write in a name for President should the choice be Romney or Obama. I will not again cast a vote for a pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, pro-big gov’t(as in socialized medicine) person. On social issues, the records of the main players are as alike as rotten peas in a pod. The state of our economy does not trump morality.

    A vote for an individual is a personal endorsement of that individual. I shall not try to judge the lesser of two evils, I just shall not endorse either evil.

33. So we all know that Obama voters are completely full of hate and fatalism, that’s a given.

    But who are these Romney voters? I have no idea why anyone would vote for Romney, other than DEMs crossing party lines to infiltrate and marginalize any decent vote (I’ll discount this… it’s likely there, but not significant).

    I guess it all comes down to the “fakers” as Don characterizes above – those that identify but are hollow (which is pretty much a DEM by any other name, other than maybe a less extremist satanic position or two than a true DEM).

    Of conservatives that are not saved that I know of, they are more inclined to go Paul than anything else.

    As for Newt – I’ll say this: he wrote the forward to the book OneSecondAfter. At least he’s got that priority straight. After all, you can’t argue when you’re dead.

34. Craig,

    Its an enigma. Conservatives said never again after RINO McCain lost to Obama and here we are again with an even weaker RINO than McCain. Conservatives keep doing the same thing over and over expecting different results. Remember the ad showing fried eggs and saying this is your brain on drugs. Perhaps it is the MTBE in the water tables, thanks to the clean air act of 1990?

    Newt Gingrich also wrote the forward to Alvin Toffler’s “Creating a New Civilization” and pushed the “Third Wave” and that is almost as scarey as “One Second After”.

35. Thanks for the article Don; I so agree with you on all counts. I had already made up my mine I will never vote for Romney or Paul and Newt was a hold my nose alternative but now having second thoughts on him. I am just praying that Santorum will not give up. He was in St Louis last night and I thought for sure he was to announce that he would drop out but he is staying in. It is so frustrating to hear of these so called conservatives influentials like Palin, Perry, Church Norris, Coulter etc.. (to name a few) endorsing Newt and Romney. I hope we can write in in MO and/or just vote for the Senator and Govenor.

    I was going to mention the Georgia hearing but someone else beat me to it. If obama is off the ballot that is 17 electoral votes he won’t get. And other states may follow: NH, Illinois, Alabama………But I would like to mention and why everyone is ignoring that Mitt Romney’s father was born in Mexico. Seem Mitt’s grandfather traveled to Mexico so he could practice polygamy. Under the definition of a Natural Born Citizen in the Federalist Papers, Mitt would also not be a NBC. Which is the same complaint against obama, even if obama jr was born in Hawaii, his father was born in Kenya and was a British Subject.

36. I was just wondering how many Mormans are voting for Mitt; tried to find the number of Mormans in the US but some conflicting info; but does these numbers include voting age and those that have left the faith?

    Approximately 6.3 million in the church records as of Fall 2007

    There are 12,868,606 worldwide members as of April 2007, with slightly less than half residing in the U.S.A.. There are approximately 5,779,321 of those living in the United States. (Fact as of Feb 2008) Update expected in April 2008 Semi-Annual General Conference.

    (If you’d like to do the math yourself or have a hankering to get it exact: http://www.newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/contact-us/usa-alabama)

    Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_Mormons_are_in_the_USA#ixzz1l567IUz3

37. Here is another interesting piece of investigative work on Obama’s birth certificate.

    HMMMMMM! “Very Interesting Bit Of Detective Work”
    1. Back in 1961 people of color were called ‘Negroes.’So how can the Obama ‘birth certificate’ state he is ‘African-American’ when the term wasn’t even used at that time?
    2. The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama’s birth as August 4, 1961. It also lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal, right? At the time of Obama’s birth, it also shows that his father is aged 25 years old, and that Obama’s father was born in ” Kenya , East Africa “. This wouldn’t seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya did not
    even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama’s birth, and
    27 years after his father’s birth. How could Obama’s father have
    been born in a country that did not yet exist? Up and until Kenya
    was formed in 1963, it was known then as the ” British East Africa
    Protectorate”.
    3. On the birth certificate released by the White House, the listed
    place of birth is “Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital”.
    This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were
    called “KauiKeolani Children’s Hospital” and “Kapi’olani Maternity
    Home”, respectively. The name did not change to Kapi’olani
    Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two
    hospitals merged. How can this particular name of the hospital
    be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been
    applied to it until 1978?
    Resources: http://www.kapiolani.org/women-and-children/about-us/default.aspx Post-colonial history (from Wikipedia)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Kenya
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya

    Why hasn’t this been discussed in the major media?????
    I wonder how we can force the media as well OUR NATION to address this CORRUPTION.

    “IN GOD WE TRUST”

38. Jerry,

    You really have to wonder why the House and the Republican candidates will not even bring these issues up? There are dozens of issues like these about Obama. I think they are afraid of being labeled racists and know there will be race riots if Obama has to be removed by any other way than through a defeat at the polls.

39. Jerry B. The facts are too, that even if obama was born in America, “if” his father was really obama sr, he still is not elgible under the defintion of a “natural born” citizen. Which is the point brought up in Georgia vs the “forgeries” of both of the BCs obama’s handlers submitted.

    “Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, James F. Wilson of Iowa, confirmed this in 1866: “We must depend on the general law relating to subjects and citizens recognized by all nations for a definition, and that must lead us to the conclusion that every person born in the United States is a natural-born citizen of such States, except that of children born on our soil to temporary sojourners or representatives of foreign Governments.”*

    When a child inherits the citizenship of their father, they become a natural-born citizen of the nation their father belongs regardless of where they might be born. It should be pointed out that citizenship through descent of the father was recognized by U.S. Naturalization law whereby children became citizens themselves as soon as their father had become a naturalized citizen, or were born in another country to a citizen father.

    Yes, birth is prima facie evidence of citizenship, but only the citizenship of the nation the father is a member.”

    more details on link

    http://www.federalistblog.us/2008/11/natural-born_citizen_defined/

    (I’m know Don knows S. Osburn who writes frequently on Doug Hagmann’s site Northeast Intelligenc Network, (NEIN);

    Doug also writes for the Canada Free Press. Doug was contacted by a employee (of reporter) for one of the major news network and they had memos and mail sent down from “on high” that they would not report anything about obama’s birth issue. This has been over a year ago. But the whistleblower has remained anon…because of threats of job loss, blackmail and possible family fears.

    The bag of worms that could be opened if the Senior is not his daddy, but possibly Malcom X or Frank Davis, that would make him eligible but he still would be guilty of forgery, lying to authorities, fraud and whole bunch of other High Crimes and Misdemeanors. Notice even Fox and a lot of conservatives would not mention the dreaded “birthers” concerns and labled us as fringe groups and other equally disgusting names. But WND daily stayed in the fight and a few others.

40. Don, I heard that too, but we both know there will be riots on the streets anyway. With some of the black leaders calling for chaos and mob rule – scores of gangs have started running the streets and flash mobs. We let these thugs threaten us with such violence – well, welcome to our third world country.

    Interesting Dr Taitz is from Russia.

41. We have seen nothing yet

42. I agree Don… I think the left is in a tough spot. They have a failed President that they went “all in” for… And to see him voted out of office would force them to see how very wrong they were in their initial assessment of this individual. This will create a cognitive dissonance, and the reaction will be defensive and probably violent should he not be reelected.

    Im still holding out hope that the Republican party has a better choice that they can spring on the nation in about March or April. Well.. there probably is not hope of that happening… I think this November could see some pretty ugly things.

    Rod in Oregon

43. Don,

    Spiritually speaking, this is my argument why I support Ron Paul, I think much of his priciples can be found in Proverbs.

    I think Ron Paul of all the Candidates openly embraces Austrian Economics over Keynesian Economics. The Keynesians fiscally reward bad behavior. (which is what is going on in the Federal Reserve) Even if Ron Paul can’t eliminate the Federal Reserve he can appoint the right man to run it.

    Ron Paul wants to go back to the Gold Standard. Which would make it difficult for the Gov’t to spend more than what they are taking in. He also believes that the Federal Reserve is creating too much Inflation.

    When Oil hit 150/barrel toppled with inflationary 0% Fed Funds Rate in 2008, it killed Small Businesses and Millions of Jobs that triggered even more foreclosure and increasing homes to devalue. (if people are losing their jobs, they are losing their homes) Causing Gov’t debt to sky rocket through lost revenues and health Care cost going through the roof because of increased inflation.

    This ignited Industrial Consolidation, which is the only way Large Caps can survive while holding prices affordable, for their strapped for cash customers. (while doing minimal hiring) Making Inflation invisible to the Federal Reserve Mandate.
    (and because Large Caps absorbed more market share, the Dow had to recover)

    0% Interest rates is making it impossible for a much needed commodities correction while taking all Banks, ability to compete for our dollars that has drained the liquidity out of Main Streets pockets and thier ability to borrow.

    If interest rates were set at 3%, Oil would correct to 80.00 barrel right now. This would provide relief to consumers putting more liquidity back into the economy. Seniors could earn a decent yield off of their life savings from Banks. they wouldn’t have to work into retirement competing for the jobs they should be creating, putting their earnings back into the economy. This would help the economy rebound, ignite borrowing and move home inventories, which can only help increase the value of homes.

    300 million Americans no longer have the fiscal ability to Police 1.5 billion Muslims or the rest of the world. (we can even manage ourselves) Wjhen Reagan was President, America’s Economy was the Global Model and led by example, that caused the Berlin Wall to fall without using force. Our military was strong and nobody messed with us. Paul believes in a strong defense. Bad regimes crumble, like the USSR, Libya, Egpyt and Iran would fall if the Price of Oil would fall to 50.00 with a strong dollar and we developed more of our own supply.

    I would rather see our military be used for defense on our own borders, for “orderly migration” back and forth. I don’t want to see our military bases in America to be shut down. The best Foreign Policy we could ever achieve would be for a good Economic Domestic Policy, which could fund a strong defense.

    Socially we are incharge of our own choices. I don’t want a Liberal U.S. Senator and Congressman in California to tell me how to live. (And I don’t want to have to pay taxes to subsidize their Socialist State) So in reality putting the power back into the States would be a win for Conservatives. I think for an individual State to decide whether or not legalizing certain drugs is a tough issue. Who do I want to controll the inflow, MS-13 Drug Lords or the States? I don’t have an answer for that. But most employers won’t hire a drug addict.

    You will never get me to think like a Liberal and a Liberal will never get me to think like them. But as a nation we still have to co-exist. I think Washington has done a terrible job of trying to stuff their Social Moralities down our throats at the expense of the tax payers.

    Ron Paul doesn’t want to subsidize anything. (he embraces accountability to ones own actions) Which means to me that he doesn’t want to subsidize bad behavior, which by itself would shrink Gov’t. (something Liberals and many Conservatives are afraid of)

    If California wants to subsidize bad behavior, they will eventually lose their tax base, because Corporations will find a more Conservative tax friendly State to operate. Calfornia would have to become Socially Conservative or became a poorer State.

    That is what Liberty and Freedom means to me. Ron Paul proclaims himself as a Christian he has been the most consistant in his principles but I believe the most voters don’t understand what Freedom really means.

    Rick Santorium would be my second choice, except he thinks he can controll 1.5 Muslims who hate us. We tryed to controll the Polictics in Iran in 1953 (for Oil)that ended badly in 1979. We did the same thing in Vietnam and that failed.

    The only thing Ron Paul will have the ability if he gets elected is address the monetary policy and maybe get us back into the Gold Standard which would controll Gov’t spending and reward Americans who value Social and fiscal good behavior. He would replace Bernanke and would put an end of “Rewarding” Fiscal and Social bad behavior.

44. David Adams,

    Where is the US government going to get all that Gold to back its money? Are they going to buy it up with all those worthless paper dollars? It sounds great in theory to a gold bug because gold would soon be $50,000 an ounce but many that have investments based on paper dollars would lose everything.

    Also, not containing Islam means an increasingly Islamic world and more persecution of Christians and Jews and unrestrained expansion of Islam into neighboring states and that would bring many local wars and more terrorism. Do American Christians really want that so that we MAY be able to live in peace for a decade until they come for us?

    Paul would be fine if we were living in his idealistic world, but we are not. The world is evil and governments that are given the God given power to restrain evil need to do so or they will be consumed by evil or replaced.

45. Don,

    I might add, that Paul is Pro-Life which makes sense because, part of his Freedom and Liberty platform protects the rights, of the un-born. Our freedom and bad choices end, as soon as it violates or ends the Freedom of another innocent life.

46. David Adams,

    You might also add that Ron Paul says abortion is a states rights issue, so liberal states would be free to choose to continue or even expand abortion. So then those that want abortion in even conservative states would just cross state lines to get it done.

47. David Adams,

    How does the U.S. police its borders against ICBM’s that are increasingly going to be able to reach us from greater and greater distances ?

48. Don,

    Thank You for your response. You are right we don’t live in a idealistic world. We both are trying to address the evil that is growing. Maybe we are both right, but with different solutions.

    At $50,000.00an ounce, would mean that we are in a hyper-inflation situation, which I can’t dispute, because of the 14 trillion dollar deficit and run away health care cost and the lack of liquidity on Main Street. The Depression in 1929 was triggered by many investments that in reality was worth nothing more than the paper it was printed on.

    We have thinned our ability, of protecting our own borders, while helping bad regimes build their militaries off of surplus gained from our thirst of their oil, when we have plenty of reserves in North America.

    0% Interest rates, weakens the dollar and increases the value of Gold. Low Interest rates over-all increases the cost of commodities, which also increases production of Gold making it more expensive.

    In fact soon as (the Keynesian) Ben Bernanke spoke last week, that easy money is here to stay for another 3 years, Gold rallied. (he has way too much power) More Inflation also means more Gov’t Debt.

    This is complicated, as a Christian nation that we are, do we live and do the right thing, and lead by example and become more self-dependent,(which in and by itself, be a sanction to bad regimes) making our own military stronger or do we continue to be enabled of oil, continuing to make us fiscally and militarily weaker by nations who hate us, while helping their militaries and economies to grow?

    We can’t even take out a nation like Afganistan.

    We supported Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war and we come to find out that Iraq was not much better than Iran.

    I know it may be a little calious of me, but bad regimes who attack each other become weaker and end up destroying each other, which is what I prefer instead of trying to break up a fist fight. If Iran and Iraq would of destroyed each other then the likelyhood of Kuwait being attacked in the first place, would be questionable at best.

    We are stretching ourselves Militarily, of being extremely vulnerable ourselves, without much support from the rest of the Globe. When I hear Washington wanting to close Military bases in America, which can only make our borders more vulnerable and then want to police the borders of 1.5 billion Muslims, I think is a mistake because we are setting ourselves up for another 9-11 attack trying to track an enemy, that can’t be found in some cave.

    I know Paul doesn’t support Sanctions, but his economic ideas would make our nation more fiscally accountable to ourselves. And by increasing more domestic crude supply and embracing a strong dollar, not only would this help our nation economically, it would be an economic setback (or Sanction) to nations like Iran and Venezuala. They would have to back off militarily so they can focus on their own economy or eventually sink like Egypt. Saudi Arabia needs to be more involved, but as long as we are their backstop, we are enabling them.

    I think we have become a nation that accepts Immoral enabling, whether we enable States like California or Nations like Saudi Arabia both of which have the fiscal ability (back lack the moral will) to solve their own regional problems but choose not to, because Washington D. C. is doing it for them, is not acceptable to me.

    Now we have allowed China to become our fiscal Master while we complain that they aren’t playing by the rules. (while the Federal Reserve and Gov’t increases Inflation and the minimium wage, which only increases production cost, making us less competitive) A fellow Brother in Christ said we can point our finger at China all we want, but we have 3 fingers pointing back at us.

    Until Washington (both Liberal and Conservative) stops rewarding domestic bad behavior our foreign policy will continue to weaken, making our Military weaker and fiscally un-manage-able.

    I think Iran is paranoid with American Troops in Iran and Afganistan. I’m suggesting that our presence in Iran, Iraq and Afganistan over the last 59 years and even Vietnam is questionable. We managed through the Cold War with Russia and China, without going to War and in some cases pulling back our military, while our miliary strength grew domestically, which is what we should be doing now.

    I think your last statement about living in an idealistic World says it all. Adam lived in probably the most idealistic environment and that didn’t workout either. The World is evil, you have raise some good arguments, I think we are both right we can’t allow evil to prevail, here or abroad. In the end we already know who is going to prevail, when Jesus cames back.

    If we kepted the Monetary, Fiscal and Social house in order, I don’t think our Foreign Policy would be so weak. I’m sure our Military would be stronger.

    We both know that the New York, Illinois and California Liberal Political Machine, and their U.S. Senators and Congressman have way too much controll on Fiscal, Social and Pro-Growth issues that is hamstringing Christian values. We aren’t dealing with the evil in our own nation. Until we can deal with that we aren’t going to be able to deal with the Globes evil.

    I support Paul’s view of taking as much power away from D.C. and giving it back to the States, because it will punish Liberal States and force change who support bad behavior and reward Conservative States that embrace good behavior. Failing Liberal States who embrace No-Growth, Weak Fiscal and Godless Social Politics will have to “repent” and vote the Liberals out.

    It doesn’t look like ideally that can happen, whoever wins the Presidency, which makes my argument even stronger that if we can’t solve our problems here at home, we will only exacerbate our own Domestic and Military problems even more by intervening with the over-seas problems that can only be solved by their own self-destruction.

    The Evil that you talk about will never defeat the Holy-Spirit

    After reading your analysis and writing my concerns, the only conclusion I can come up with, because the task at hand is so great, it can only be solved by the Holy Spirit.

49. David Adams,

    If I can interject again, even though your not talking to me…

    Your obviously a thorough and intellectual person…

    I do disagree with some things though…

    I believe foreign oil is only a part of the reason why we have military overseas. As a so called “world police”, we are at least delaying the inevitable of having serious terrorist actions happening in our own backyard.

    How long are we going to be able to keep up with the “world policing” and taking the fight to the enemy so they have a harder time hitting us again here ?…that’s the trillion dollar question.

    You said…”as a Christian nation that we are”…really ? On what basis could anyone say that about our politically correct, gay rights, take The Lord out of everything, abortion loving country ?

    I do agree that we cannot win any war…with the way our military is hamstrung with “rules of engagement” nonsense, I doubt we could win a war against Elmer Fudd and the three stooges.

    And, would it really help to have more military at our borders when we are letting terrorist cells (Muslim Mosques) multiply like rabbits all over the U.S. ? They are protected by the states and U.S. government, they are not being challenged for their obvious intentions.

    Personally, I don’t see any political solution to any of the world problems, I think everything is a band aid when a tourniquet is needed…but I would be happy to see a Presidential Candidate that had a knowledgeable and applied Biblical based way of thinking (not Pat Robertson or Jesse Jackson)…I thought Michelle Bachman might be that person, and was hoping Rick Santorum might be, but neither of them have/had a real chance.

    God Help Us.

50. David Adams,

    Since nobody that has real solutions or true Christian beliefs can get elected in this country I think all the arguments are academic. Paul will never get elected in this country and you seen what they did to the other conservative candidates that were running.

    If after all we have been through, half the country will still vote for Obama we are going down for the count. If somehow Romney or Gingrich got in it would just happen a bit slower. The problem is not the politicians it is the people that vote. We think the Muslims in Egypt are crazy for voting in Islamics but the American people are voting in globalist Fascist Marxists.

51. …

    What I say about our military is in no way meant to be a derogatory exploit to our brave men and women who are keeping our country as safe as possible.

    It’s the idiot decision makers in Washington that I’m talking about.

    Our military in all regions should be doing what they do best, killing the enemy, blowing stuff up, and ending wars and/or confrontations quickly.

    When they hung our contractors off of the bridge, I think one city should have been turned to glass period !

    And every time “The Religion Of Peace” did their nonsense, another city…that, I believe is the only message that they would understand.

    I think General George Patton would agree with me on that.

52. Don and David,

    You guys are great. We are all able to recognize that we live in an evil world.

    If you think about it, by and large our nation is being run by the Congressional Delegations from 3 States, Illinois, New York and California. They are all Liberal and the only way their States have lasted this long is because they control the Social Politics in Washington D.C.

    Social Politics is the reason why we don’t finish the mission over-seas, it is Social Politics that has made us dependent on Foreign Oil when we have the surplus here in North America, that has helped these nations rise up militarily and economically against us.

    I even heard Rick Santorum suggest the power should go back to the States. If Illinois, New York and California had to make their own fiscal decisions their Social Political arena would fail, because Businesses would move over to do Business in Conservative States. Most Conservatives would move out of these Liberal States, shrinking their power

    If we had embraced these ideals along time ago, Iran would be shooting pop-guns. If we stop rewarding bad behavior and give States more say, Liberalism would fail our economy would no longer need Foreign oil and Military Nations like Iran would eventually self-destruct right along with collapsing Oil prices. Because their people would rise up against them.

    Our nation would be stronger than ever, our borders would be more secure. Liberals are nothing more than Communist and Communism failed in USSR and China as they have adapted to Capitalism. Communism in California would also fail if we put more power to individual States.

    If the Candidates focus on the issues and make their own argument, instead of attacking each other and let the voter really understand what they actually stand for, we would have a better shot of replacing Obama and Bernanke. (Bernanke and Greenspan’s Keynesian Economics is responsible for the printing press that is enabling the Liberal Washington machine to get out of hand)

    If we don’t clean up our act, it really won’t matter what goes on over-seas.

    If the Candidates don’t knock it off, Obama may get re-elected. If you notice I didn’t say anything negative toward any individual Republican candidate. I do think they all would make a better choice than Obama because they all vowed to replace Bernanke.

53. Obama will be reelected in 2012, and a fresh, young group of conservatives will embrace the primaries in 2015. I’m thinking Rubio, Paul Ryan, Rand Paul, and possibly Huntsman again.

54. I agree with everyone here. We should worry. Jesus said in Opinions 32:22 ‘behold, if there is a romney and newt, ye shall worry for i am false.’

    Yep, let’s pretend a person with “no past” is the President just because America decided it was time for a non-White to lead.

    By the way, who is counting the votes? It couldn’t be a Spanish company with ties to Goldman Sachs?? What is that sound sheep make again?

55. Chris, Is this before or after the civil war? if Obama is reelected there might never be a 2016 election.

56. David Henley,

    I deleted your last paragraph. You made assumptions that seem to be unwarranted. Christians should know about the political affairs where they dwell and try to influence their country for the good. Therefore, there has to be communications to express opinions and opinions about the path America is taking is just being astute. It is not faithless worry about what is going to happen to ourselves.

57. I made a New Years resolution to never argue with a follower of Ron Paul again, so I will just direct my views to the good people here.

    Paul is the most polarizing candidate on the Repubican side we have ever had. I have been watching since the last election and trying to vote as intelligently as I can with what we have to select from. Some of the stuff in the past has sort of been sanitized. I do understand his non-intervention aka isolationist views. But if anyone thinks he plans on making America more secure, they sure will be mistaken. He just recently said that border security is just to keep Americans in, supported the disgruntled anti-war veteran, Adam Kokesh, who has been in the protest with Code Pink, Adam converted to Islam and has a show on Russia Today TV (RT) and ask for campaign contributions for Paul. And you see, Paul never tries to distance himself from these groups but goes out of his way to support them. Paul was on Iranian (presstv) bad mouthing America and Israel. In direct violation of Logan Act. He has received money from Stormfront, a white supremist group, with border line Nazism, and refused to return it. If the Bilderbergs that Paul, Inc and infowars hate so much then why has Paul accepted a million or so in contribtions from Peter Thiel; who was on Paul’s campaign committee and has attended every Bilderberg meeting since 2008. And yes, I have documented and verifiable proof. He voted in favor of the UN Goldstone Report, he voted against Israel’s right to defend themselves in the Gaza War, he has on many ocassions supported the Palestinian cause and has called Israel an “occupier”. His recent defense cut bill with Barney Frank was backed by George Soros, he supported the law breaking occupiers and even Paul followers are seen living in the nasty tents with them, he praised the traitor Manning as a hero who released national secrets in the wikileaks fiasco. An ex-Paul did extensive research of the groups Paul is associate with: John Birch, Lew Rockwell, Ludwig von Mises and came up with connections to the dreaded Federal Reserve they love to hate, he called the people that opposed the Cordoba Mosque “demogogues” (obama called the anti-immigration people that too) His legalize drug policy is as reckless as you can get. I just can’t imagine his anarcist followers some of even teamed up with the Holocaust Deniers on Facebook, threatened an Iraqi war hero with breaking his knee caps and raping his wife and daughter. IMO so many that want him in office are a bunch of potheads who want to walk the streets of America stoned so they won’t get put in jail.

    He probably won’t get the nomination anyway but still my 2 cents. Just my concern that Rand will follow in his father’s footsteps.

    And I’m just getting started.

    Just FYI; certainly nothing wrong with owning gold but he has massive gold holdings. I’m not very well informed on the econ..issue to debate.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/what-ron-paul-invests-in-2011-6

    (Too many refererences here so available upon request and Don’s approval)

58. Ann,

    Thank You for responding on my reasoning for supporting Paul. I think you raised some important concerns.

    Paul is a defender of the Constitution, the Illinois, New York and California Liberal Political Machine mocks the Constitution, at the expense of tax payers and of course Christian values. These 3 States control Social Politics, Monetary Policy and Education for all 50 states and our tax dollars are going primarly to Liberal causes.

    You put the power back into the States like the Constitution requires, you end the power Liberals enjoy, because they will be forced to be accountable. I think Ron Paul is a visionary and he is sick of being under the Liberal umbrella that takes personal accountability out of our lives. Liberals believe in big Gov’t and want to use our taxes to reward bad behavior.

    This is where Ron Paul is misunderstood, he doesn’t approve of bad behavoir and he knows you can’t stop bad behavior, he just believes we shouldn’t have to pay for it.

    (if you pay taxes, like I do, then all us, are rewarding those who practice bad behavior, which I call sin)

    If I have to guess, I have to believe people who live Conservative Lifestyles make more money and pay more taxes on average than people who live Liberal Lifestyles.

    Right now California is prime example, they are the biggest welfare state in America and the biggest drain on the Federal Budget. If you cut the spicket of tax dollars and Gov’t agency’s, and make California pay for their own pet peeves, they will try to raise taxes on successful Businesses in order to meet the growing debt. Businesses will move out, theses States will no longer have the ability to reward bad behavior.

    These businesses do not have the ability to compete and pay more taxes supporting bad behavior. So they will have to relocate to a more fiscally Conservative State.

    Conservative residents in these 3 states do not want to pay for bad behavior and will move. (I know, I use to live in California) If Conservatives move out of the big 3, then you see home values drop, which is a major tax base. If you lose population will lose seats in Congress. People on drugs can’t hold a job so they will have to sober up and repent or die.

    Until you stop rewarding bad behavior and accountability they will continue to practice sin. There may be Ron Paul supporters that practice sin. Some of these supporters may not even understand what “States Rights” really mean. With Ron Paul’s plan their lifestyle will eventually catch up to them.

59. Ann,

    On a smaller scale, the State of Washington is leaning Liberal, dominated by Seattle/Tacoma, the rest of the State is mostly Conservative. (fortunately their Polictical Delegation is small)

    Boeing is trying to compete with Air-Bus and wanted to relocate to South Carolina a more Conservative State. But it was blocked by Washington D.C., in fact I believe the lawsuit the Gov’t was going to file on Boeing was going to create a problem in the way Boeing does business and Boeing caved.

    Boeing is a major source of tax revenue that keeps Liberal causes going. I’m sure Ms. Murray(D) who is a U.S. Senator benefitted from the presense of Boeing Union workers. She barely got re-elected in 2010. “States Rights” wouldn’t be able to block Boeing from practicing Free Market Capitalism if they decided they couldn’t operate. (and the Liberal Senator Murray (D) understands that)

60. Ann,

    All of us don’t want Liberals telling us what to do and we certainly don’t want them to control the dollars, God blesses us with. If Conservatives start pushing for States Rights, the Liberals know their credit cards will be taken away from them.

61. Don, Do you (and by When would you) suppose that Rick S will withdraw?

    What Then?

62. Don,

    One more thing.

    If R.S does drop out… who do you suppose he will endorse.
    Romney
    Gingrich
    or
    Paul?

    Has anyone ever NOT endorsed a remaining candidate?
    Should Rick do that as well?

63. Al,

    Santorum will probably drop out after super Tuesday if it looks like Romney is going to get the needed delegates.

    Santorum will then endorse Romney since he will be the only Republican that can win and Santorum will be hoping for a position in his administration. There is a good chance they he will get VP if he drops out soon enough so that Romney can get some support from the Tea Party people. However, If Gingrich could make a comeback and have wins on super Tuesday I think Santorum would drop out and favor him if he could get the VP slot. In other words Santorum is now running for VP.

64. Here’s something to look at about our Congress paving the way for our Muslim Obama Presidency prior to 2008. It’s about 10 minutes long and worth the look.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=H3aCfR8rmrw#t=5s

65. good afternoon Don and family :), just letting you know I have not forgotten your web site, cannot read all the comments today – but I get the point here-too bad our country is going down the sewer, forget what scripture, it is in my heart, but it talks about the people who were Christians in the past realizing they would not see the end times-but now we are seeing the times ending……

66. Don,

    RICK IS BACK!

67. Al,

    Yeah, the vote was quite surprising, maybe conservatives are finally figuring out that Romney is a social Liberal.

68. Don,

    In an earlier post somewhere… I believe I referred to providence… in regards to Rick having any chance. Of course IF it truly is divine providence, then it will NOT fall short, and Rick will be President.

    We’ll just have to wait and see.

    But yes…it is surprising… even the left media is in shock!

    Am wondering what Rick’s poll numbers will look like in the next few days and weeks to come.

    Newt is looking more worn out with every passing day, and now with these results I hope He decides to pull up stakes. Paul I believe has his own agenda – am not sure what he’ll do. I CERTAINLY hope he doesn’t run as a third option. This would of course provide blocking for Obama’s second term. And although it would show just what Paul was/is about… it does nothing for us where it counts.

    Many in the press have called 2 of the 3 wins for Rick (last night) merely beauty contests since no delegates are awarded. BUT I don’t believe they are empty wins. Unless something unforeseen happens in Rick’ campaign I don’t see those numbers changing come the real deal time.

69. Al,

    Now the big republican establishment guns and distortions will come out against Santorum. We will see if he can survive.

    Paul would be crazy to run against Santorum since they have many of the same views.

70. Al,

    I agree with you…and I’m really surprised at Santorum’s sudden victories myself. I have to wonder, if Santorum is really a conservative Christian and voices it, then what ?
    He’ll surely offend the atheist, homosexual, abortion, and Muslim vote.

    Don,

    What do you mean “Paul would be crazy…”…I think he’s past that.

71. Well ~David…
    Seeing as the homosexual vote will deny Rick about 4% to 10% (depending on which stat you wish to cite), the muslim vote about 3%, the atheist vote about 2% and the pro–choice vote about 31% (Hey that basically tallies up to the core of the left wing voters… 38% – 44%) Factor in some dead people, some prisoners and some illegal’s who will vote, and you get close to 47% max. I think Rick can go ahead and feel safe in voicing his true feelings in all those areas. In fact I think he has… that’s why I’m on board with him.

    P.S

    I don’t see any Skeletons in Rick’s closet (ala Gingrich, Clintons, even family issues like the Palin’s – i,e Bristol & Levi saga ) opposition will try and use the earmark issue (that has been brought up by the other candidates and highlighted in the press) but once that is cleared up by Rick… I don’t see anything else popping up.

72. Al,

    A lot will be brought up about Santorum in the campaign so I do not see how he can win or get the majority of votes like you suggest. For example:

    He Is a fervent Catholic so that makes him either a Christian bigot or an agent of Rome depending on the point of view of some. He was honored as a knight of Malta so that makes him part of the satanic elite according to some.

    He supported a liberal named Specter so that makes him a closet Liberal in the eyes of some.

    He took his baby that lived only a couple of hours after birth home so that his other kids would remember him, so that makes him nuts in the eyes of some.

    He is a hawk on Islamic sponsored terrorism and Iran so that makes him a war monger to some.

    He is a lawyer that represented the World Wrestling Federation and argued that they should be exempt from steroids because it was not an actual sport. (Which it is not, it is a entertainment freak show.) So that rules him out for some.

    He lost his 2006 Senate reelection campaign by the largest margin of any Senate office holder in the history of the Republican party, so that makes him a loser by many.

    He took a stand against Libertarians in the Republican party so that rules him out by Libertarians.

    He has a strong position against illegal immigration so that rules him out by illegal alien lovers.

    He thinks social security should be privatized so that rules him out by many older people.

    He is white so that makes him a racist to most blacks.

    Oh Well!

73. Al,

    I respect what you said…but 2% atheists ? Really ?

    That seems like an awfully small number for a country that is having a mass casualty of The Lord’s name (The Jesus Christ Lord) in every aspect.
    Well, wait a sec…are we talking about registered, card carrying, atheists who denounce The Lord publicly out of everything or are we talking about apostates from other religions ? Even Shirley McClaine believes in Gods…to her, we’re all Gods so she might not be called an atheist…but really.

    I wonder how many so called “Christians” who think everyone has a right to do what they want (abortion, homosexual, etc) and believe what they wish (“there are many ways to heaven”) would take up the atheists cause against someone who specifies Jesus Christ.

    If a politician just uses the name “God” but doesn’t specify Jesus Christ then maybe they’re OK…but someone who is going to say the words “Jesus Christ”…well, in my view, then you’ll see the true number of atheists…then again, that’s coming from a Zionist Pig like myself : )

    And to what you said Don, that’s actually pretty hilarious, but it seems to be about right…the only hope for a politician is someone who can be all things to all people…which, of course, is what they all try to do anyway.

74. Mission impossible so it seems. And for some, any excuse will do I suppose. But when those folks consider the alternatives (Obama, Newt, Mitt or Paul) perhaps in their eyes, THESE SAME FOLKS will deem Rick the best from a bad bunch. …We’ll take that.
    Yet the latest results are encouraging and absolutely unexpected.
    EVERYONE agrees with this.
    He has won in 4 States to Romney’s 3
    So what gives? Does his platform resonate with enough voters? Rick has zilch dollars to campaign with… in comparison to the others. Just who is in the forward position fighting for Rick? Will clay jars break open come November and reveal a lamp of blinding light that confounds the forces of darkness and causes them to stumble over themselves? Will everyone still have mouths open wide in disbelief come Rick’s inauguration?
    I Don’t Know!
    But it feels good to hope. Not in Rick (the Man) per say… but in Rick POSSIBLY being a tool in the makers hand.
    I don’t know. But I think we can all AGREE that if Rick were to move forward with his name first on the ticket, then some sort of (I will not employ obvious adjective) intervention has to have taken place. Of course the greater proof for that would be in the actions He takes (or desires to take) form the oval office.

    P.S Yes ~David card carrying atheists. But the truth is that I don’t know the real number. Probably is just like you say. Shirley stil alive? Don’ tell me you read the National enquirer? 😀

75. Al,

    Yeah but, Americans as a whole deserve and want Obama and that is what they will get from God.

76. Al,

    I think those are good points.

    Well, The Lord sent Jonah to save a wicked people in Ninevah so maybe The Lord is going to give the U.S. one last chance to repent also…with hopefully, a righteous leader in Santorum.

    By the way Al, your a good writer and always have great points in my opinion.

    And NO, I would never read the National Inquirer…at least, not until I’m done with the Scientology magazine first 🙂

77. Don,

    I was trying to be optimistic for once…and you had to go and say that.

    I guess no Flower Power, Make Love Not War, Koombaya fantasy’s today…darn it.

78. 🙂

    Thanks ~David…

    BTW: Hope your copy of Scientology is a borrowed library copy 😀

    Hope not Don…. but in all probability will all go as you say.

    What Then? I personally don’t see a physical civil war arising from the eternally irreconcilable Right versus Left ideologies. We on the right are disappointingly and sadly a far-flung and scattered group and have not the men of leadership who could and would step up and undertake such a dire step. Where are the men of Courage who have been endowed with the virtues to move on this? I don’t see them. Not yet. Some who imagine they are and who we imagine they are…just want to write BOOKS.

    It’s possible that some States may try to break away but FEMA seems to be preparing for any who dare attempt such an advance. Increasing civil unrest is the likely scenario..however this will be embarked on by the lefties who will still want MORE change towards the spiralling down of an amoral and ungodly society.

    Seems likely that all we will be able to do is stock up on the word of God. Keep our wicks trimmed and our lamps full. Stock up on all the OTHER corporal necessities as well. And pray and hope and pray and repeat…and pray… be it your will and not mine Lord Jesus; but if you are willing… please come quickly Lord.

79. Don, you brought out a VERY important point: He was honored as a knight of Malta so that makes him part of the satanic elite according to some.

    Except, you said “according to some”. Facts are facts and if one does their homework on this group, how could a Christian vote for a member of this group?

    As for Ron Paul, I would never vote for a man who wants to legalize drugs and has no regard for Israel, saying it would be better if they did not exist.

    Romney, as a member of the Mormon cult, has a calling on his life to fulfill Joseph Smith’s failed attempts to become President and also that of his father. If one studies the Mormon religion, it is scary to have a high-leven Mormon in the White House.

    And Newt, he seems to be fading despite the influx of cash from his Vegas pal.

    But one has to ask the question: When have we ever had a truly Christian president? We live in a pluralistic society, not a theocracy. I voted for Jimmy Carter thinking he was moral and a Christian. Well, we all know where that went. The “Christian nation” folks are barking up the wrong tree. The real problem lies at the doorstep of the Church that has failed to be salt and light.

    However, from another aspect, God predicted the apostasy and we are in the midst of it and seeing the fruit. I agree with Al who said: Seems likely that all we will be able to do is stock up on the word of God. Keep our wicks trimmed and our lamps full. Stock up on all the OTHER corporal necessities as well. And pray and hope and pray and repeat…and pray… be it your will and not mine Lord Jesus; but if you are willing… please come quickly Lord.

    I know personally believers in Christ who are putting their faith in stockpiles of gold, guns and freeze-dried food. I said stockpiles, not prudent preparation. On the other hand we have people who are holding out hope that America is really a “Christian nation” and there will be revival. Nowhere do I find that in the Bible for the last days, but quite the opposite.

    Al is right – our focus should be on the Word of God and walking with Him. The Pre-trib Rapture of the Church is our Blessed Hope. Keep looking up!! Our redemption draws nigh!

80. Hi Redeemed,

    I think that Santorum and his wife just received some honorary title from the Knights of Malta. That is not all that unusual with high profile Catholic political figures so there may not be anything sinister in this. I am not sure that he is even a member of the Knights of Malta. I could be wrong. Even so, like you implied we have not had a real Christian in the White House for quite some time anyway, so you might as well vote for the candidate that you think is going to allow Christians to live a peaceful and quiet life and continue be salt and light. Obama is a Marxist he will directly oppose freedom of religion.

81. Why aren’t Radical Conservatives and Christians getting it. It’s all about ABO.

    It is highly doubtful that the Republican nominee will defeat Oblabla if we continue with our present nonsense. We are consuming enormous resources on ridiculous fights over who’s a true Conservative and/or a true Christian.

    It is time to quit haggling over this “true Conservative,” “true Christian” nonsense. Romney is Conservative and Christian enough. We can work with him if we can get him elected.

    We are consuming our resources on guys who can’t possibly win. It is time to focus on defeating “The Great Deceiver.” And that will take every resource we can muster.

    Romney is the only Republican organized, financed, and ready to take on the Obama machine. Apply some common sense to the problem of ABO.

    Frankly, neither Santorum nor Gingrich have the money and organization to take on Obama and his political cabal. They can’t even finance their primary campaign. Get realistic! Only Romney is ready to go and well prepared to govern.

82. William,

    Its not all about Obama. The American people elected him because they do not known the difference between a Communist plant and a Moderate or they simply do not care. If you just get rid of Obama you will get someone just as bad the next time. To say Romney is Christian enough is ridiculous. He is a leader in a Satanic cult. He also is not a conservative by any stretch of the imagination.

    He has money because rich people are supporting him because they think like you do. If there actually are enough true conservatives in America to elect a President they will come up with the money. If not, we have already lost the nation because Romney won’t save it, and nobody will vote for him in conservative areas anyway.

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